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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio now here's

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gene Stein on the para cast with Gene

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and Chris we progress as we ponder what

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is happening in the strange or unusual

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world of the unknown now let me just

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tell you how things get astray in this

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crazy field so for example the company

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that makes our form software has an area

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in their form where they talk about

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different things than somebody put up a

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thread do you believe in UFOs and they

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have a Paul where most of the people who

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participated believe in UFOs okay fine

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fair enough and then some guy comes in

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here the other day some Joker and he

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starts wondering why someone put up a

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blog entry saying that the power cast

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runs too many commercials now what does

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that have to do with whether you believe

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in UFOs what do you think Chris I don't

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know maybe aliens are starting to

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commercialize their presence or

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something that you got me it doesn't

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make sense but the other issue here is

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that the person who put this up took it

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down because he realized it's a

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ridiculous discussion and in point of

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fact we run the same number of

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commercials as any commercial radio show

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in the u.s. within a minute one minute

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more or less whatever same number of

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commercials so why is it a crime for us

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to run ads and not a crime for all these

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other shows to run ads coast-to-coast

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Rush Limbaugh there's nothing criminal

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about that what's criminal is that we

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don't get any money from those those ads

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at the network runs that's criminal I

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know if I was Rush Limbaugh or Alex

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Jones or one of these other people I'm

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sure they not only get us paycheck from

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their network they get a piece of all

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those ads they get a piece of the action

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but the deal that a lot of radio hosts

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have is the one we have which is they

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they give us so many minutes per hour to

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run our commercials and then they have

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so many minutes per hour to run their

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commercials and they leave open other

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minutes for local stations to run their

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ads so the local stations get paid for

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their ads the network gets paid for

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their ads and we if we sell enough ads

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get paid for ours but of course we

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haven't yet sold enough ads there you go

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yeah tell me about it right so the other

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way of being able to boost the show is

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number one to get more stations we get

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more stations we can go to an advertiser

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and say look we have all these stations

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we have the worldwide presence of the

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para cast and that means it's a good

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place for your aunt and that way those

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advertisers will come to us they give us

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a salary we don't have to ask listeners

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to give us donations I mean it works out

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perfectly don't you think yeah yeah in a

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perfect world assuming a perfect world

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oh yeah that's how the business anyway

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well I have a little announcement sure

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on more of a positive note we won

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nowadays yeah other than the fact that

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it was 8 degrees here last night which

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pretty rare for this part of the world

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but I have decided what my next book is

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gonna be Jane it'll be out this fall and

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it kind of dovetails nicely with today's

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guest I attempted to shop a book which

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would I would like to consider as a

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definitive book on the the cattle

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mutilation phenomenon or the unexplained

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livestock death mystery if you will and

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I got 21 straight rejections from the

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publishing industry each of the letters

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sent to my agent had either the word

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fear or afraid in it which kind of clued

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so I I shoved the project for 1213 years

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and now it has been revived and I will

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be releasing stocking the herd which

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mystery that we'll be discussing today

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with with our guests that were in a Bock

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okay definitive guide if Chris O'Brien

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doesn't I agree who's the publisher

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it'll be a ventures Unlimited Press

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David was the one that said hey you know

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what about this I had several book ideas

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I'd given him this particular proposal

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years ago and he he gave it back to me

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and said hey how about this and I said

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sold American okay what can I say it

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sounds good to me and I wish you the

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best of luck with the book we'll be

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talking more about as we progress you up

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give people some hints about it and

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maybe we'll have some special contests

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premium to boost the interest let's

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going to be a really great project let's

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get on the New York Times best selling

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list wouldn't that be nice

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yeah very few books on the paranormal

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ever get to that great place now let me

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tell you how some books get on there you

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know you have some books written by

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authors with a certain political bent

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and what they do is you see them on the

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New York Times bestseller list because

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maybe some organization political action

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committee will buy up a hundred thousand

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books and give them away as a premium

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for people who give donations but as far

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as the measurement of bestseller is a

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concern they just sold a hundred

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thousand books that's an idea so I mean

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if Bob Bigelow wanted to give away you

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know like a million copies of your book

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and you were getting a buck or two a

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book hmm hey that sounds sounds good to

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me hopefully I'll be able to get him to

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comment on the Sherman Ranch mutilation

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cases which will be included in the book

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especially the calf case which one of

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the stranger documented cases of all

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time in my estimation so but we'll have

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to see that'll be this fall so we know

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that Chris O'Brien is gonna be a busy

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bee to write that book I wish you best

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of luck I might be doing a book too with

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my first wife Geneva Hagen and that is a

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collection of all the material that we

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assembled from this magazine we put

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together years ago called caveat emptor

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because we have rare interviews there

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with people who never get interviewed in

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the history of UFO research how many

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Ray Palmer Raymond a Palmer of course

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the dad of our guest from last week how

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Curtis and Mary fuller who were they

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they were the cofounders of fate

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magazine with Ray Palmer and where would

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pound on the research be without Ray

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Palmer fate magazine all the interests

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that he and the Fuller's brought to this

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field of research over the years so we

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have that collection and we're working

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on in some way to first digitize all the

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content because remember this is a

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printed magazine that came out at a time

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publishing let me amend that the last

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desktop publishing so we have to scan or

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we'll have to see so we're all busy with

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our book projects yep sounds like it

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right luck with yours thank you and best

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of luck with yours I'm really looking

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forward to reading it maybe he'll get me

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a chance to read the book before it goes

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to print maybe he'll take advantage of

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my free editorial services that I give

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to friends who are long-suffering

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co-hosts and I'm sure I'm sure he will

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the manuscript I'll take care of it I'll

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take care of you man and all right good

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good to hear it talking about cattle

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mutilations or mysterious cattle deaths

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and this is a controversial subject but

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a very important subject especially you

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wonder what's going on here what about

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the unsolved livestock deaths and we

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week Chris yeah this is one of the more

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peculiar cases that I've come across

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some sort of societal manipulation

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and we're gonna try to hold Werner back

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a little bit he's very very keen to be

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two-parter with him because this is a

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very very complex case

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70s and Vernor is a man on a mission

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he's quite adamant that he's been

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targeted by by nefarious agencies north

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of the border and it's not only him it's

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going to be I think a very interesting

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and intriguing examination of an aspect

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of this mystery that doesn't get the

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gene and Chris you're in the para cast

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you know for many of us so much of our

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we have Network special programs

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some good news there is a better way

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tablet or smartphone into your office

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you could access your entire network use

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resources we all know when a company

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actually responsibly divesting ourselves

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and a move towards safety is prudent

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when the market becomes volatile US

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Treasuries are a safe haven but what do

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you do when the US government

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overextends itself and spends beyond its

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means many investors are turning toward

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gold is a common-sense alternative to

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traditional paper investments Midas

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resources has put together a powerful

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discussing cost benefits risks featuring

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Casa Deena and Chris this week with

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Verner Bach he is a farmer from Canada

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one of the farmers and the Maritime

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Provinces of Canada and he has got quite

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Vernor welcome to the podcast yeah good

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afternoon and well I hope it won't be

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boring to the audience and I think it's

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high time two people a year especially

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in North America that they start waking

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up and come out of that virtual reality

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well let's we definitely want to be out

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of our virtual realities because if

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we're watching 24/7 cable news in

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America you know you're in a virtual

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reality okay so before we talk so much

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about the things that have happened to

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you let's talk about your background

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you've been a farmer for a number of

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years is this a family business or what

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no I'm 70 years old I just made that the

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big three score and ten and I grew up on

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a small farm over there in Germany but I

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didn't see much of a future because the

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most of the land are farmed it was on a

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leased basis and the fields they were

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scattered around an expanding town of

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roughly about 20 thousand people and

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there was you know quite a bit

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developing activity going on and I would

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lose steadily farmland where I'd put a

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lot of work in I would lose it for

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subdivisions and schools and so on so

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this is basically the authorities coming

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to you and saying we'll take your land

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for these other purposes as I say as I

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mentioned before it was I farmed on

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least most of the land I found on what

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leaf then if they leased you the land

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and then they

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have the option to say we're going to

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unleash it yeah and the sale breaks

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leash you know when the owners decided

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that they could make more money by

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selling the land for building Lots then

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I was off and theater had put a lot of

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work in you know I basically was losing

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it and it was from here to yet it was a

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hassle to have always enough land to

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farm on and I was getting sick and tired

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of it so at the age of 27 I decided to

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look for what you call greener pasture

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you know and at the time the province of

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New Brunswick in eastern Canada they

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were looking for immigrant farmers from

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Europe especially from Germany and

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Holland to pick up there's a local

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pharmacist left off a year earlier in

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1968 I come over here for what a couple

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weeks and I looked around there were

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huge stacks have good farmland what we

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consider to be good farmland that there

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had been abandoned and said my goal not

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the bushes and while at the same time

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the province was was important most of

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its food

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what easily could be worn here and we

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saw it as an opportunity is the land was

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cheap you know

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so in 1969 early 1969 I came over here

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and I bought a farm with the federal

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lending agency as a Farm Credit

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Corporation and I to take on a 25-year

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mortgage and the rest and with money

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what I had basically what over former

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from the old country

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okay so here you're in a situation where

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you buy the land they can't come in

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there and throw you out or can be the

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mayor agenda 21 is Pagar thing now

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especially south of the border I think

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you know the words have changed there

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are basically all we will solve the one

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who decides what the rules are is no the

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government okay so when did things get

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strange for you on the farm well the

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first five years you know as I say I

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bought the farm that was half full and

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basically the year the forest had been

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stripped by the previous owner

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and half of it was farmland but a lot of

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the tears I needed drainage and I to you

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know clear the bushes often and the

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total is about was about there 640 acres

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and put in year have you know half

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farmland and half forest land but since

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the woodlands had been stripped there

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was no way to make a living off the

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woodlands you know and I came over here

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anyway to farm you know so I the next

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few years I put my nose to the

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grindstone did a lot of hard work you

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know cleaned up the field and grains and

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lines the fears and to get them back

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into production and but there were still

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some more years ahead where I to do

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preparation and in 1973 my dad passed

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away over the old country and he left me

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a piece of corn but so I sold it there

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in 1974 and I figured for the next few

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years I could - cattle and you know beef

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cattle and it's basically cow calf

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operation and it would leave me some

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more freedom where I could do the other

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ketchup work on the land and get it

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basically the infrastructure done so I

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could really get into farming you know

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and the same in late summer 1974 I

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bought a herd of beef cattle and I

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picked them out out of the dirt of

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several hundred and anyway and I thought

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that was a well set you know financially

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secure but by early 1975 some unusual

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things happened that didn't match doing

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tonight the vehicles they're parked

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there on the vote this is a you know

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basically over area you know the next

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door is the next-door neighbor's and one

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side they were about quarter of a mile

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away

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in the same way on the other side about

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half a mile away you know and when you

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see we cuz something's there and go and

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be search lights over there build over

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your buildings at 3 o'clock at night you

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know

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makes you wonder what's going on you

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know and then a cattle started getting

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sick the burner this is Chris welcome to

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the podcast and thank you so much for

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for joining us and so we can hear your

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story but Mike my quick question is how

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large of a herd did you start out with

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how many head of livestock did you have

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oh I started out with 32 beef cows then

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what

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they were mostly short on conscience and

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that's what I saw around here the short

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on cautious they had their good milking

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cows so when the cats got plenty of milk

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then they would have good gains you know

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and in the fall you could beam element

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that you could be in a good size gap

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remember we're not all farmers and we

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don't completely understand what you're

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talking about so what is the goal of

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this because like I said this is to me

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Greek I grew up in the city and lived

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mostly in the city yeah so basically you

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know you I went into beef cattle and as

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I explained earlier it puts the least

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demands on my work and it gave me some

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times to do some more preparatory work

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on the farm you know to get the land in

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a better shape and do more

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infrastructure work like do more

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drainage work and line the fields and

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clear not more the fields but in the

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meantime a cattle could gradually graze

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on the field you know that's the reason

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why I decided to do for the next few

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years go into beef cattle I had been

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raising cattle over the old country I

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was milking cows and I was their

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familiar with all the different type of

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farming or what's called sugar beets I

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was hoeing potatoes and I was going

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grain we got more to come

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Vernor buck will tell us about what

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started happening to his livestock on

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when stating a central bank issuing the

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public currency is a greater menace to

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hi this is Don Ecker and you are tuned

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in to the para cast let me tell you what

604
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you're gonna hear stuff here that you

605
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probably won't hear anywhere else hear

606
00:27:18,450 --> 00:27:15,880
that George snoring with Gene and Chris

607
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and the power cast we are talking -

608
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Verner bak it was a farmer from Canada

609
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who as a matter of fact here's a new

610
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story of that I was just looking at as

611
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Chris and I were putting together our

612
00:27:33,300 --> 00:27:29,890
notes for the show but before we get

613
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into that at what point did bad things

614
00:27:39,900 --> 00:27:35,890
start happening on the farm Verna yeah

615
00:27:42,540 --> 00:27:39,910
by the begin of March 1975 as I say I

616
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:42,550
noticed some unusual things happening a

617
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:44,170
volunteer I live in a rural countryside

618
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and as I said that say o'clock at night

619
00:27:52,490 --> 00:27:50,200
we could would stop on the road go with

620
00:27:54,930 --> 00:27:52,500
searchlight over the buildings and at

621
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:54,940
first I thought that some far as we are

622
00:27:59,490 --> 00:27:57,970
looking for cheap beef you know but I'd

623
00:28:01,650 --> 00:27:59,500
knocked down the license plate number

624
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:01,660
and then several more of those

625
00:28:05,460 --> 00:28:03,850
incidences happens and every time I

626
00:28:08,580 --> 00:28:05,470
marked down the license plate numbers

627
00:28:11,910 --> 00:28:08,590
and gave them to the RCMP you know and

628
00:28:14,010 --> 00:28:11,920
to check out who that who it was you

629
00:28:16,260 --> 00:28:14,020
know because ever say you have to keep

630
00:28:17,730 --> 00:28:16,270
your eyes open you know and at the time

631
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:17,740
I think it's the fellas we're looking

632
00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:20,770
for cheap beef you know and what I said

633
00:28:24,810 --> 00:28:21,130
before

634
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and I this is a you know sparsely this

635
00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:26,920
was the sparsely populated rural

636
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countryside and knave on one side was

637
00:28:33,150 --> 00:28:31,750
about a quarter of a mile away is the

638
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neighbor on the other side about a half

639
00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:33,760
a mile away

640
00:28:38,610 --> 00:28:36,640
you know now this means here then if

641
00:28:41,850 --> 00:28:38,620
your neighbors were pulling this stuff

642
00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:41,860
you know about I'm at the time I wasn't

643
00:28:48,020 --> 00:28:44,080
aware of any of the neighbors you know

644
00:28:50,610 --> 00:28:48,030
but then about a month and a half later

645
00:28:53,610 --> 00:28:50,620
cannot start the died first cows that

646
00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:53,620
died the night before the name on the

647
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other side I see in parked across from

648
00:29:00,840 --> 00:28:58,810
the loafing barn in my field at 10

649
00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:00,850
o'clock at night it was thought and this

650
00:29:07,710 --> 00:29:03,760
was by the end of April and he was

651
00:29:10,620 --> 00:29:07,720
talked about for 10 15 minutes but then

652
00:29:12,690 --> 00:29:10,630
he started up is the leak again and so

653
00:29:13,530 --> 00:29:12,700
I'm driving by I noticed one burnt-out

654
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taillight

655
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I realized who it was so I jumped in the

656
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car followed him up and he stopped and I

657
00:29:22,110 --> 00:29:20,530
said what are you looking for and he

658
00:29:25,860 --> 00:29:22,120
said oh I'm looking for my daughter's

659
00:29:28,410 --> 00:29:25,870
cat didn't seek one of the mile away it

660
00:29:32,870 --> 00:29:28,420
was he wasn't even about half a mile

661
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away and it was stuck dark you know and

662
00:29:37,890 --> 00:29:35,530
looking looking in under that conditions

663
00:29:40,230 --> 00:29:37,900
for his daughter's cat but anyways the

664
00:29:43,620 --> 00:29:40,240
next morning the best cow in the hurt

665
00:29:45,810 --> 00:29:43,630
it was a red short on this was by the

666
00:29:48,150 --> 00:29:45,820
end of April she had already a full

667
00:29:50,820 --> 00:29:48,160
summer here you know the nice short here

668
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with the with the step along the back

669
00:29:55,170 --> 00:29:52,840
basically the animal was in the top

670
00:29:57,450 --> 00:29:55,180
shape and in the morning at the time I

671
00:30:00,180 --> 00:29:57,460
was feeding square bales I was good now

672
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:00,190
see as the day as their distance from

673
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the barn in in a half circle you know so

674
00:30:08,970 --> 00:30:06,010
all the animals at an even chance to to

675
00:30:10,770 --> 00:30:08,980
eat say hey you know and this cow didn't

676
00:30:13,170 --> 00:30:10,780
come over for feedings generally she was

677
00:30:14,670 --> 00:30:13,180
always the most aggressive one she was

678
00:30:16,050 --> 00:30:14,680
tending the side so I called her she

679
00:30:17,790 --> 00:30:16,060
wouldn't come so I walked over and

680
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:17,800
slapped on the back and I said come on

681
00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:19,810
go get your hay she walked a couple of

682
00:30:24,660 --> 00:30:22,960
steps and she felt like on her knees and

683
00:30:27,180 --> 00:30:24,670
then she had that cupboard gettin up

684
00:30:29,580 --> 00:30:27,190
then when she fell on her knees she

685
00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:29,590
basically you know emptied herself in

686
00:30:35,910 --> 00:30:32,710
back you know and I'm not supposed to

687
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:35,920
use any any profane words you know but

688
00:30:40,380 --> 00:30:38,050
all that was coming out was clear mucus

689
00:30:42,570 --> 00:30:40,390
and water and then she had trouble

690
00:30:44,340 --> 00:30:42,580
getting up and my thought was she must

691
00:30:48,150 --> 00:30:44,350
have got something real corrosive inside

692
00:30:49,950 --> 00:30:48,160
you know and and she tries to you know

693
00:30:52,620 --> 00:30:49,960
as the body tries to flush it out of it

694
00:30:53,820 --> 00:30:52,630
I put not excessive fluid but anyway I

695
00:30:54,990 --> 00:30:53,830
found that the immediately the

696
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veterinarian

697
00:30:59,370 --> 00:30:57,670
adopt a least from Sussex young

698
00:31:02,640 --> 00:30:59,380
veterinary and he came out at ten

699
00:31:05,490 --> 00:31:02,650
o'clock and he said oh yeah could be

700
00:31:07,530 --> 00:31:05,500
winter this entry but I was after snacks

701
00:31:11,220 --> 00:31:07,540
you know symptoms of different illnesses

702
00:31:13,980 --> 00:31:11,230
and diseases you know and so I said no

703
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:13,990
wouldn't be winter this entry because it

704
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:15,730
with that his entry the internal

705
00:31:22,410 --> 00:31:19,570
bleeding and then he digests that blood

706
00:31:25,950 --> 00:31:22,420
suitors that digested but the disease

707
00:31:27,180 --> 00:31:25,960
would be black and he said all could be

708
00:31:29,070 --> 00:31:27,190
most anything

709
00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:29,080
but anyway he left me some software

710
00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:32,080
bonuses and until I knew what was going

711
00:31:36,990 --> 00:31:34,720
on with her with a cow I didn't want to

712
00:31:39,630 --> 00:31:37,000
put any more chemicals in her you know

713
00:31:42,150 --> 00:31:39,640
but anyway she went down at noontime and

714
00:31:44,730 --> 00:31:42,160
I lifted up this was by the end of April

715
00:31:49,020 --> 00:31:44,740
and the vandamm of the cattle you know

716
00:31:51,030 --> 00:31:49,030
it was a little bit you know wet and I

717
00:31:54,420 --> 00:31:51,040
didn't have before we were distracted so

718
00:31:59,070 --> 00:31:54,430
I lift it up and I put a nice bit of

719
00:32:03,720 --> 00:31:59,080
slaw under and I covered up

720
00:32:05,610 --> 00:32:03,730
and the last time I checked the cow at

721
00:32:09,230 --> 00:32:05,620
night was about 2 o'clock at night she

722
00:32:11,910 --> 00:32:09,240
still was alive but barely breathing and

723
00:32:15,810 --> 00:32:11,920
it was just a little bit fast maybe

724
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:15,820
about sweet Andrea also that night and I

725
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:17,890
left the tractor with the fondant order

726
00:32:22,350 --> 00:32:19,330
and she didn't make it now how about

727
00:32:24,890 --> 00:32:22,360
your neighbors were they well you were

728
00:32:28,380 --> 00:32:24,900
your neighbors also experiencing unusual

729
00:32:29,790 --> 00:32:28,390
symptoms of their cattle well some of

730
00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:29,800
the neighbors they told me that there

731
00:32:36,350 --> 00:32:32,080
was something going on and they didn't

732
00:32:39,180 --> 00:32:36,360
know what happens you know and basically

733
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:39,190
over the years with this racket that has

734
00:32:42,990 --> 00:32:40,690
been going on I don't think I was the

735
00:32:45,420 --> 00:32:43,000
only one but a few months later I found

736
00:32:47,250 --> 00:32:45,430
out that there was a farmer at the

737
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:47,260
outskirts of Sackville he had lost 65

738
00:32:53,730 --> 00:32:49,930
head of cattle a daily farmer so these

739
00:32:55,260 --> 00:32:53,740
all died and that farmer I spoke to him

740
00:32:58,530 --> 00:32:55,270
personally and I knew him from a few

741
00:33:03,840 --> 00:32:58,540
years earlier and he was basically been

742
00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:03,850
given a kind of was given a runaround no

743
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:04,720
no nonsense

744
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:08,370
he liked to by the veterinarian right

745
00:33:14,460 --> 00:33:12,250
now we're talking about early spring of

746
00:33:17,730 --> 00:33:14,470
1975 were you aware at the time that

747
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:17,740
there was an outbreak of cattle

748
00:33:23,070 --> 00:33:20,410
mutilation cases all across the United

749
00:33:25,950 --> 00:33:23,080
States and in parts of Canada were you

750
00:33:28,650 --> 00:33:25,960
aware of these waves of animals and

751
00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:28,660
unexplained livestock deaths I was

752
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:31,120
completely unaware of it and my hunch

753
00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:33,010
was from the symptoms account is

754
00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:36,910
displayed was that she had been exposed

755
00:33:40,889 --> 00:33:40,510
to those very corrosive chemicals like

756
00:33:45,149 --> 00:33:40,899
there

757
00:33:46,739 --> 00:33:45,159
use in daily barns so you thought that

758
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:46,749
this was a reaction to some sort of

759
00:33:52,019 --> 00:33:49,450
introduced chemical yeah that they had

760
00:33:54,989 --> 00:33:52,029
basically one way to get into a cow to

761
00:33:56,700 --> 00:33:54,999
get the you know solution into inter is

762
00:33:58,919 --> 00:33:56,710
there you take a longneck bottle like a

763
00:34:00,869 --> 00:33:58,929
wine bottle you put it in you grab the

764
00:34:03,209 --> 00:34:00,879
cow this is the two fingers in the nose

765
00:34:05,399 --> 00:34:03,219
lift it up and sell the wine bottle in

766
00:34:07,769 --> 00:34:05,409
and let it run in and the animal

767
00:34:10,169 --> 00:34:07,779
swallows us and goes down but let me ask

768
00:34:12,299 --> 00:34:10,179
you a question here for what purpose

769
00:34:17,970 --> 00:34:12,309
would somebody want to sabotage your

770
00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:17,980
livestock and kill them what the time I

771
00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:22,569
to look for what was a teen who was

772
00:34:31,740 --> 00:34:28,089
involved and then I had to consider the

773
00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:31,750
when I bought the farm it was a lower

774
00:34:36,389 --> 00:34:34,000
farm and it was a perform the upper farm

775
00:34:39,269 --> 00:34:36,399
was about a mile and a purpose vote and

776
00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:39,279
I have about the total of the attics in

777
00:34:45,269 --> 00:34:42,250
half miles of old footage overlooking a

778
00:34:49,950 --> 00:34:45,279
nice Valley within easy commuting

779
00:34:52,980 --> 00:34:49,960
distance from the next city mountain

780
00:34:55,049 --> 00:34:52,990
they call it the Hub City one of the top

781
00:34:58,859 --> 00:34:55,059
cities here in you in the meta and

782
00:35:01,410 --> 00:34:58,869
provinces you know I'm still on

783
00:35:03,630 --> 00:35:01,420
understanding here so what is the motive

784
00:35:05,490 --> 00:35:03,640
that you have really good property that

785
00:35:08,569 --> 00:35:05,500
they want to take over by putting on a

786
00:35:12,859 --> 00:35:08,579
business this is what I had to consider

787
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:12,869
that it wasn't it was about real estate

788
00:35:17,579 --> 00:35:15,490
and what I found out later on the

789
00:35:19,950 --> 00:35:17,589
families that were involved two young

790
00:35:22,260 --> 00:35:19,960
fellows the year before or two years

791
00:35:22,890 --> 00:35:22,270
earlier they didn't have two cents to

792
00:35:25,289 --> 00:35:22,900
rub together

793
00:35:27,529 --> 00:35:25,299
one was a plumber and one became an

794
00:35:31,859 --> 00:35:27,539
electrician and within a year they

795
00:35:33,539 --> 00:35:31,869
bought the farm one father who just had

796
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:33,549
come of schools and it started up with

797
00:35:39,029 --> 00:35:36,130
electrician business and built the house

798
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:39,039
bought has a farm you know he sure

799
00:35:43,620 --> 00:35:40,450
didn't get anything from his dead

800
00:35:46,410 --> 00:35:43,630
because his dad was a drunk you know but

801
00:35:48,690 --> 00:35:46,420
then I heard from other people that

802
00:35:50,819 --> 00:35:48,700
there was a monkey business going on in

803
00:35:53,279 --> 00:35:50,829
the provincial government where they've

804
00:35:54,510 --> 00:35:53,289
got some loan for you know some of them

805
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:54,520
there they're both

806
00:36:00,060 --> 00:35:56,530
thing you know when they'd bought the

807
00:36:05,010 --> 00:36:00,070
second and third farm that they had

808
00:36:07,980 --> 00:36:05,020
inflated the purchase price so they had

809
00:36:11,940 --> 00:36:07,990
pretty near the wall purchase price of

810
00:36:14,130 --> 00:36:11,950
the farm as a cheap loan finance as a

811
00:36:16,020 --> 00:36:14,140
cheap loan from the provincial

812
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:16,030
government from the farm adjustment

813
00:36:19,860 --> 00:36:18,250
board well were you ever approached by

814
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real estate developers or anyone that

815
00:36:27,180 --> 00:36:25,330
try attempted to buy your farm I'll tell

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you I will try to find what it was about

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as you can tell neighbors when the

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discussion gets down on the farm I'm a

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bit out of my element

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as you progress with Vernor buck joining

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gene and Chris you in the para cast

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918
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you are listening to the podcast we have

919
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:13,920
burner Bach he's a farmer from Canada

920
00:41:19,820 --> 00:41:17,850
who encountered a problem where it

921
00:41:22,370 --> 00:41:19,830
looked like his livestock was being

922
00:41:24,530 --> 00:41:22,380
killed perhaps with gene and Chris and

923
00:41:26,780 --> 00:41:24,540
the power cast so okay it's not real

924
00:41:30,190 --> 00:41:26,790
estate developers then who would it be

925
00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:30,200
who would be causing this to happen he

926
00:41:37,370 --> 00:41:34,710
said young follows about the year

927
00:41:39,140 --> 00:41:37,380
Ian asked two years earlier they didn't

928
00:41:42,860 --> 00:41:39,150
have two cents to rub together and

929
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:42,870
within a year they suddenly go on a

930
00:41:47,630 --> 00:41:44,010
spending spree

931
00:41:48,710 --> 00:41:47,640
so what financing them don't see the

932
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:48,720
connection now these were the guys that

933
00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:50,730
owned the farm before you or they were

934
00:41:56,900 --> 00:41:53,730
nearby what's the connection to you the

935
00:42:00,740 --> 00:41:56,910
neighboring farm and the fellow who was

936
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:00,750
at 10 o'clock at night right across from

937
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:02,970
my loafing barn in my field was party

938
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:05,370
for cuarto Cano and the next morning the

939
00:42:10,580 --> 00:42:08,130
best cow in the herd is sick and she

940
00:42:12,020 --> 00:42:10,590
dies the next night oh so you're saying

941
00:42:13,850 --> 00:42:12,030
that that you track down who these

942
00:42:15,230 --> 00:42:13,860
people were spotlighting your cattle and

943
00:42:19,180 --> 00:42:15,240
that's that's who you found out they

944
00:42:21,770 --> 00:42:19,190
were spotlighting my cattle

945
00:42:26,630 --> 00:42:21,780
this happens there is a previous month

946
00:42:29,870 --> 00:42:26,640
and I had not noticed on the license

947
00:42:31,130 --> 00:42:29,880
plate number you know I understand okay

948
00:42:33,170 --> 00:42:31,140
I didn't I didn't I didn't catch the

949
00:42:36,710 --> 00:42:33,180
connection okay so you think these guys

950
00:42:40,100 --> 00:42:36,720
were hired by somebody now what is this

951
00:42:41,090 --> 00:42:40,110
what did you think at the time was going

952
00:42:43,220 --> 00:42:41,100
on do you think you were being

953
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:43,230
victimized by the government or do you

954
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:45,810
think it was private concerns well what

955
00:42:49,340 --> 00:42:47,520
was your thinking back in 75 but

956
00:42:52,580 --> 00:42:49,350
basically what they're late on came

957
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:52,590
together about in 1976 I had one evening

958
00:42:57,890 --> 00:42:55,530
a visit from from an RCMP officer who

959
00:42:59,750 --> 00:42:57,900
was new to the detachment and we were

960
00:43:02,750 --> 00:42:59,760
going over the events that had happened

961
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:02,760
and he said to me you just must have got

962
00:43:08,090 --> 00:43:05,010
into one of their rallies as I say it's

963
00:43:11,090 --> 00:43:08,100
a whole long story but he said last year

964
00:43:13,610 --> 00:43:11,100
they started up in Nova Scotia this year

965
00:43:16,190 --> 00:43:13,620
they are in New Brunswick in

966
00:43:18,620 --> 00:43:16,200
that's the way it will go all across the

967
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:18,630
country and then he added you know

968
00:43:22,460 --> 00:43:20,490
people are getting greedy since this is

969
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:22,470
what is the year earlier ayat already

970
00:43:28,250 --> 00:43:25,290
concluded with my investigations that it

971
00:43:31,070 --> 00:43:28,260
was organized crime starting out at the

972
00:43:34,870 --> 00:43:31,080
grassroots level and they were trained

973
00:43:37,070 --> 00:43:34,880
for quiche so Verner you're you have a

974
00:43:38,930 --> 00:43:37,080
you kind of hinting around here that

975
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:38,940
this is some sort of organized criminal

976
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:41,610
enterprise that was being enacted on you

977
00:43:47,150 --> 00:43:44,250
now you've lost how many head of cattle

978
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:47,160
since then about 250 if memory serves me

979
00:43:56,930 --> 00:43:54,050
correct no the last 17 years I lost over

980
00:43:59,540 --> 00:43:56,940
320 and many more animals had been

981
00:44:02,180 --> 00:43:59,550
mutilated okay well how many out of

982
00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:02,190
those 320 animals were actually

983
00:44:07,100 --> 00:44:02,910
mutilated

984
00:44:14,060 --> 00:44:07,110
no no 320 were killed were killed but

985
00:44:17,210 --> 00:44:14,070
how many were mutilated remaining and

986
00:44:19,100 --> 00:44:17,220
can you describe the the the types of

987
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:19,110
evidence that would lead you to believe

988
00:44:25,010 --> 00:44:22,890
they were mutilated I made two and a

989
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:25,020
half years ago I made a 75 minute

990
00:44:31,630 --> 00:44:26,130
documentary

991
00:44:34,220 --> 00:44:31,640
it's called farmers idea and there is

992
00:44:38,750 --> 00:44:34,230
lots of the evidence is there but I got

993
00:44:42,050 --> 00:44:38,760
thousands more photos and and files and

994
00:44:45,740 --> 00:44:42,060
everything and it basically it points to

995
00:44:48,830 --> 00:44:45,750
a huge conspiracy that reaches into the

996
00:44:52,070 --> 00:44:48,840
high places of the government and as I

997
00:44:55,370 --> 00:44:52,080
say I have been very active about the

998
00:44:58,850 --> 00:44:55,380
last two years for over two years

999
00:45:02,990 --> 00:44:58,860
you know on the internet there are

1000
00:45:08,810 --> 00:45:03,000
different different networks and me on

1001
00:45:12,380 --> 00:45:08,820
as a as a guest first time in 2009 on

1002
00:45:15,770 --> 00:45:12,390
the 4th of July dr. Rebecca collie you

1003
00:45:18,590 --> 00:45:15,780
know on the rbn network she had me on

1004
00:45:20,930 --> 00:45:18,600
for two hours as a guest the next one

1005
00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:20,940
was Devon weeks govern America on

1006
00:45:27,140 --> 00:45:26,880
Abhiyan then Maggie Ryan well what what

1007
00:45:28,670 --> 00:45:27,150
sort

1008
00:45:30,500 --> 00:45:28,680
response have you gotten from the

1009
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:30,510
investigation community I know you've

1010
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:33,810
talked with Ted Oliphant you spoke with

1011
00:45:39,530 --> 00:45:36,210
Linda how did you how did you approach

1012
00:45:41,090 --> 00:45:39,540
first Warner in the investigation

1013
00:45:43,550 --> 00:45:41,100
community and when did you approach them

1014
00:45:46,220 --> 00:45:43,560
in the investigation community I

1015
00:45:50,290 --> 00:45:46,230
approached about ten years ago Colin

1016
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:50,300
Keller from the knits the comb said

1017
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:55,890
Colin Colin Colin Callahan yeah he

1018
00:46:01,760 --> 00:45:58,290
worked with dr. Georgiou net that the

1019
00:46:04,430 --> 00:46:01,770
nationalist I'm sorry dr. George Arnett

1020
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:04,440
about a couple weeks ago did you ever

1021
00:46:11,570 --> 00:46:06,930
send them samples forensic samples you

1022
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:11,580
know sort of color I sent him about what

1023
00:46:17,210 --> 00:46:15,210
eight years ago I sent in photos I think

1024
00:46:19,730 --> 00:46:17,220
in about document the injuries on the

1025
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:19,740
animals and at the time the internet

1026
00:46:25,580 --> 00:46:22,650
just was in the in his beginning stage

1027
00:46:28,130 --> 00:46:25,590
and say I'm a dummy on the internet but

1028
00:46:32,810 --> 00:46:28,140
there was an internet outfit here in the

1029
00:46:34,370 --> 00:46:32,820
village and the guy he scans the photo

1030
00:46:38,630 --> 00:46:34,380
so they're polaroid photos I've taken

1031
00:46:40,460 --> 00:46:38,640
and before he sent them I had to look at

1032
00:46:42,590 --> 00:46:40,470
the photos and I searched and you know

1033
00:46:45,530 --> 00:46:42,600
good quality the plans are good quality

1034
00:46:48,140 --> 00:46:45,540
you can sent them and a few days later

1035
00:46:50,420 --> 00:46:48,150
be great I found that comb color and he

1036
00:46:53,210 --> 00:46:50,430
said oh I got the photos in the Bay Area

1037
00:46:55,460 --> 00:46:53,220
you know poor quality so something must

1038
00:46:59,440 --> 00:46:55,470
have happened in between or because then

1039
00:47:02,000 --> 00:46:59,450
while later I became aware of knit then

1040
00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:02,010
when I was at the time I used to listen

1041
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:05,040
to coast to coast and now let's go

1042
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:06,810
through the interview when I don't know

1043
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:09,930
if it was a girl or just knowing who

1044
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:15,690
interviewed Tom Keller you know his book

1045
00:47:20,900 --> 00:47:17,970
hunt for the skinwalker came out did he

1046
00:47:23,750 --> 00:47:20,910
ever ask you or did dr. o net ever ask

1047
00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:23,760
you to provide them with suspended

1048
00:47:29,210 --> 00:47:26,400
forensic samples in formalin or did they

1049
00:47:32,030 --> 00:47:29,220
ask for any plant and soil samples

1050
00:47:34,550 --> 00:47:32,040
did they ever send anybody out at the

1051
00:47:37,730 --> 00:47:34,560
time I wasn't aware of doctor or net I

1052
00:47:40,609 --> 00:47:37,740
only contacts at the con color and I

1053
00:47:43,549 --> 00:47:40,619
sent him the picture

1054
00:47:46,910 --> 00:47:43,559
the Polaroid picture documenting the

1055
00:47:51,529 --> 00:47:46,920
burns and the injuries and some of the

1056
00:47:53,569 --> 00:47:51,539
autopsy photos of those animals really

1057
00:47:55,939 --> 00:47:53,579
tell anything because of the poor

1058
00:47:58,429 --> 00:47:55,949
quality of the photograph that clucky

1059
00:48:02,209 --> 00:47:58,439
said that there is that he he receives

1060
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:02,219
them in very poor quality and I doubted

1061
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:05,729
that very much because the scans the

1062
00:48:11,269 --> 00:48:08,130
father had taken yeah as a local

1063
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:11,279
Internet Center Internet services there

1064
00:48:17,029 --> 00:48:14,249
were of good quality but then a while

1065
00:48:19,370 --> 00:48:17,039
later I listen happen to listen to a

1066
00:48:22,249 --> 00:48:19,380
coast-to-coast again and it was

1067
00:48:26,359 --> 00:48:22,259
mentioned that a fella by the name of

1068
00:48:30,049 --> 00:48:26,369
Bigelow was basically Bank holding that

1069
00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:30,059
organization nits and that he was one or

1070
00:48:34,910 --> 00:48:32,160
one big real estate developer in the

1071
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:34,920
southwestern United States well we we've

1072
00:48:38,809 --> 00:48:36,930
we've covered we've covered the subject

1073
00:48:40,670 --> 00:48:38,819
of meds in Bigelow and and his

1074
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:40,680
activities extensively here on the

1075
00:48:45,620 --> 00:48:43,170
podcast but my question is did they ever

1076
00:48:47,870 --> 00:48:45,630
follow up with you on this did they make

1077
00:48:51,289 --> 00:48:47,880
any attempt at all to help you oh they

1078
00:48:52,819 --> 00:48:51,299
never make any attempt that's peculiar

1079
00:48:56,029 --> 00:48:52,829
because generally they were pretty good

1080
00:48:57,799 --> 00:48:56,039
at at following up on leads like this

1081
00:49:00,999 --> 00:48:57,809
now did you ever have any cattle that

1082
00:49:05,479 --> 00:49:01,009
were actually surgically attacked and

1083
00:49:08,449 --> 00:49:05,489
disfigured most of the times they used

1084
00:49:10,519 --> 00:49:08,459
lasers and burned holes right into the

1085
00:49:13,189 --> 00:49:10,529
cattle but what I've been documenting

1086
00:49:15,169 --> 00:49:13,199
what was the most deadly technology that

1087
00:49:18,289 --> 00:49:15,179
was being used where they were modifying

1088
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:18,299
the atmospheric air like the oxygen and

1089
00:49:21,859 --> 00:49:19,170
the nitrogen

1090
00:49:24,919 --> 00:49:21,869
okay now that gets to be a bit strange

1091
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:24,929
how we know that that is not strange

1092
00:49:32,359 --> 00:49:29,130
okay research that was published in fact

1093
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:32,369
mid and the earliest research about the

1094
00:49:37,849 --> 00:49:34,890
exposure to modified atmospheric air

1095
00:49:40,519 --> 00:49:37,859
what's being done in the 40s of last

1096
00:49:45,829 --> 00:49:40,529
century they're workers in industries

1097
00:49:51,319 --> 00:49:45,839
were exposed to nitrogen oxides and to

1098
00:49:53,059 --> 00:49:51,329
ozone and the health implication this is

1099
00:49:55,699 --> 00:49:53,069
an old cat

1100
00:49:58,039 --> 00:49:55,709
and it is a well known so you don't have

1101
00:50:01,819 --> 00:49:58,049
to be a rocket scientist to find out to

1102
00:50:04,339 --> 00:50:01,829
know that when you when atmospheric air

1103
00:50:07,999 --> 00:50:04,349
which is composed of seventy six percent

1104
00:50:10,729 --> 00:50:08,009
nitrogen and 23 percent oxygen and calm

1105
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:10,739
dioxide and you add water vapors and you

1106
00:50:17,449 --> 00:50:13,650
got a certain other polluting you know

1107
00:50:20,900 --> 00:50:17,459
like so far and dioxide or what what the

1108
00:50:25,339 --> 00:50:20,910
what the dioxide just regular pollution

1109
00:50:27,319 --> 00:50:25,349
from car exhaust polluting gases but the

1110
00:50:29,900 --> 00:50:27,329
main component of the atmospheric air is

1111
00:50:32,569 --> 00:50:29,910
nitrogen and when nitrogen is exposed to

1112
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:32,579
combustion heat or to any amount of the

1113
00:50:38,599 --> 00:50:35,729
heat that causes it to oxidize then you

1114
00:50:40,429 --> 00:50:38,609
end up with the three different nitrogen

1115
00:50:43,459 --> 00:50:40,439
oxide from nitrogen oxide to nitrogen

1116
00:50:47,809 --> 00:50:43,469
dioxide to nitrogen dioxide and all of

1117
00:50:50,319 --> 00:50:47,819
them are highly toxic gases so basically

1118
00:50:54,890 --> 00:50:50,329
here to try to summarize all this

1119
00:50:57,459 --> 00:50:54,900
someone is trying to poison the

1120
00:50:59,329 --> 00:50:57,469
livestock using some kind of atmospheric

1121
00:51:01,219 --> 00:50:59,339
manipulation this is a game to be more

1122
00:51:02,989 --> 00:51:01,229
and more fascinating folks and there's a

1123
00:51:06,890 --> 00:51:02,999
lot more to go to explain what's going

1124
00:51:08,269 --> 00:51:06,900
on and also to explain whether or not

1125
00:51:10,669 --> 00:51:08,279
this has anything to do with the

1126
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:10,679
paranormal cause or something that's

1127
00:51:15,769 --> 00:51:13,650
deliberately done by human intervention

1128
00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:15,779
and remember neighbors if you have a

1129
00:51:20,149 --> 00:51:17,609
comment or a question about the power

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1162
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1189
00:54:14,989 --> 00:54:12,450
here's Jane Steinberg Vernor bak farmer

1190
00:54:18,410 --> 00:54:14,999
from Canada joining us talking about the

1191
00:54:20,959 --> 00:54:18,420
mysterious or not some mysterious deaths

1192
00:54:23,479 --> 00:54:20,969
of over 300 of his livestock on his farm

1193
00:54:26,150 --> 00:54:23,489
and one of the possibilities that you'd

1194
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:26,160
mentioned Verner is whether someone is

1195
00:54:31,249 --> 00:54:28,410
somehow manipulating the local

1196
00:54:32,989 --> 00:54:31,259
atmosphere to cause some of these deaths

1197
00:54:35,079 --> 00:54:32,999
so how would you do that what's the

1198
00:54:38,749 --> 00:54:35,089
mechanism by which you do that kind of

1199
00:54:41,779 --> 00:54:38,759
the air is that 75 minute documentary

1200
00:54:44,779 --> 00:54:41,789
it's all sequentially in there about

1201
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:44,789
when you use a directed-energy you know

1202
00:54:49,190 --> 00:54:46,170
like lasers or mazes

1203
00:54:52,370 --> 00:54:49,200
you what I show there where the animals

1204
00:54:55,759 --> 00:54:52,380
had burnt under noses found burn spots

1205
00:54:58,819 --> 00:54:55,769
on their noses that meant directed

1206
00:55:01,450 --> 00:54:58,829
energy beam and I followed it up I've

1207
00:55:04,609 --> 00:55:01,460
had some other pictures where I showed

1208
00:55:07,670 --> 00:55:04,619
originally the beam is round but where

1209
00:55:09,799 --> 00:55:07,680
it hit it's an uneven surface then it

1210
00:55:11,630 --> 00:55:09,809
follows the contours of the surface and

1211
00:55:13,190 --> 00:55:11,640
you can determine the direction where

1212
00:55:14,809 --> 00:55:13,200
the beam had come from when you look

1213
00:55:16,789 --> 00:55:14,819
like straight from this one it's

1214
00:55:20,029 --> 00:55:16,799
perfectly hard when you look from from

1215
00:55:21,769 --> 00:55:20,039
the side where to focus it partly into

1216
00:55:23,390 --> 00:55:21,779
the nostrils then it follows the

1217
00:55:27,979 --> 00:55:23,400
contours of the north the uneven

1218
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:27,989
contours of the nostrils so verna you're

1219
00:55:32,959 --> 00:55:30,170
talking about a directed-energy

1220
00:55:34,999 --> 00:55:32,969
instrument was this done from the air

1221
00:55:37,819 --> 00:55:35,009
was it done from the ground

1222
00:55:40,190 --> 00:55:37,829
I mean basically your pictures shows

1223
00:55:43,999 --> 00:55:40,200
something that probably was was directed

1224
00:55:46,009 --> 00:55:44,009
from above the animal no in most of the

1225
00:55:47,809 --> 00:55:46,019
cases what I've been documenting it

1226
00:55:50,359 --> 00:55:47,819
indicates that it came from the ground

1227
00:55:53,059 --> 00:55:50,369
see it the cattle there on the lower

1228
00:55:55,519 --> 00:55:53,069
farm here and the lower farm is roughly

1229
00:55:58,309 --> 00:55:55,529
about a hundred and ten acres and it's

1230
00:56:02,809 --> 00:55:58,319
surrounded by woodland and in some Hills

1231
00:56:06,109 --> 00:56:02,819
you know so it's roughly about 200 to

1232
00:56:08,940 --> 00:56:06,119
250 yard up to the edge of the

1233
00:56:12,950 --> 00:56:08,950
surrounding woods Plus right

1234
00:56:16,859 --> 00:56:12,960
the middle of the farm there goes a a

1235
00:56:20,010 --> 00:56:16,869
highway or country road you know right

1236
00:56:22,770 --> 00:56:20,020
and so it can be done from the vote the

1237
00:56:24,450 --> 00:56:22,780
18 vehicles parked here right right

1238
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:24,460
apart from the animals whether they are

1239
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:26,650
in the resume right across the fence

1240
00:56:32,190 --> 00:56:28,570
where the animals ends up in the pasture

1241
00:56:33,990 --> 00:56:32,200
you know were you ever able to see like

1242
00:56:35,940 --> 00:56:34,000
in the first instance where you were

1243
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:35,950
able to ID a vehicle spotlighting the

1244
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:38,770
cattle did you surveil your herd did you

1245
00:56:44,220 --> 00:56:41,680
did you were you ever able to ascertain

1246
00:56:47,339 --> 00:56:44,230
how exactly they were doing this did you

1247
00:56:50,310 --> 00:56:47,349
ever witness anybody in the woods around

1248
00:56:52,849 --> 00:56:50,320
the area or stalking around in your

1249
00:56:55,609 --> 00:56:52,859
pastures were you ever able to ID

1250
00:56:57,990 --> 00:56:55,619
individuals perpetrators I've identified

1251
00:57:00,180 --> 00:56:58,000
when I was being targeted with those

1252
00:57:03,390 --> 00:57:00,190
beans you know when they basically hit

1253
00:57:06,180 --> 00:57:03,400
me in the back or in in back of my lake

1254
00:57:08,670 --> 00:57:06,190
or so and I was able to determine the

1255
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:08,680
direction it had come from when was

1256
00:57:13,740 --> 00:57:11,650
doing the winter I would line it up the

1257
00:57:16,109 --> 00:57:13,750
direction and then I went to the spots

1258
00:57:17,819 --> 00:57:16,119
like from the hilltop and so and they

1259
00:57:20,069 --> 00:57:17,829
were have fresh tracks in the snow where

1260
00:57:22,349 --> 00:57:20,079
somebody had been there and I identified

1261
00:57:25,349 --> 00:57:22,359
the person then I followed the tags up

1262
00:57:28,290 --> 00:57:25,359
and they came out at this neighbor's

1263
00:57:31,770 --> 00:57:28,300
driveway and the boot size is fitted

1264
00:57:33,809 --> 00:57:31,780
about his teenage son again I am I I

1265
00:57:35,630 --> 00:57:33,819
think I asked this before but I just

1266
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:35,640
wanted to make sure that I understand

1267
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:39,250
you were the only one whose animals were

1268
00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:41,170
being targeted in this manner correct

1269
00:57:46,309 --> 00:57:42,910
you neighbors did not have these types

1270
00:57:49,230 --> 00:57:46,319
of of cases where animals were

1271
00:57:51,900 --> 00:57:49,240
exhibiting these burn marks another

1272
00:57:54,660 --> 00:57:51,910
German neighbor he came as they came

1273
00:57:58,349 --> 00:57:54,670
over one to seyn within a few months

1274
00:58:01,079 --> 00:57:58,359
after I had come over and when the young

1275
00:58:02,790 --> 00:58:01,089
Solomon he bought the farm episode and

1276
00:58:06,589 --> 00:58:02,800
he moved his whole cattle herds there

1277
00:58:09,540 --> 00:58:06,599
and he was looking very well after than

1278
00:58:11,790 --> 00:58:09,550
they're over over a period of about half

1279
00:58:15,780 --> 00:58:11,800
a year I think he lost at least nine or

1280
00:58:17,849 --> 00:58:15,790
ten cows and I was there you know I

1281
00:58:20,309 --> 00:58:17,859
helped him then we wanted to get some of

1282
00:58:22,910 --> 00:58:20,319
the cows that had been targeted when we

1283
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:22,920
wanted to get them up and all the cows

1284
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:25,930
paralyzed the hind end was paralyzed

1285
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:27,610
they would stand up on their front feet

1286
00:58:33,060 --> 00:58:30,850
they would eat and pass thesis and

1287
00:58:37,290 --> 00:58:33,070
everything but they couldn't get up and

1288
00:58:40,020 --> 00:58:37,300
last call I witnessed there this was but

1289
00:58:41,730 --> 00:58:40,030
in early spring we become by on the vote

1290
00:58:45,630 --> 00:58:41,740
in the couch they are relaxing on this

1291
00:58:48,570 --> 00:58:45,640
idea and one black white face cows she

1292
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:48,580
was soon again yeah her cut you know and

1293
00:58:53,190 --> 00:58:51,610
she was in a good shape and the Raven

1294
00:58:55,620 --> 00:58:53,200
bear sitting on a hind end and they'd

1295
00:59:00,300 --> 00:58:55,630
picked already warts in two inches deep

1296
00:59:02,430 --> 00:59:00,310
and she didn't flinch muscle what year

1297
00:59:08,370 --> 00:59:02,440
was this that your neighbor was was was

1298
00:59:10,350 --> 00:59:08,380
hit the year was 1973 in 1975 and I saw

1299
00:59:10,950 --> 00:59:10,360
he was looking very well after his

1300
00:59:13,590 --> 00:59:10,960
cattle

1301
00:59:16,110 --> 00:59:13,600
there's the best hay and everything you

1302
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:16,120
know but he just had bought as if farm

1303
00:59:19,980 --> 00:59:18,610
its vote you know because when they

1304
00:59:22,890 --> 00:59:19,990
first came over they bought their it

1305
00:59:24,810 --> 00:59:22,900
just only a small farm 65 acres right

1306
00:59:28,350 --> 00:59:24,820
you know bordering on the north side of

1307
00:59:31,050 --> 00:59:28,360
my farm but then the the next few years

1308
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:31,060
rate as a young fella he moved further

1309
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:32,770
out in the countryside and he bought

1310
00:59:36,780 --> 00:59:35,410
this farm I think it's what about the

1311
00:59:39,510 --> 00:59:36,790
square mile

1312
00:59:43,110 --> 00:59:39,520
you know sometimes would land in between

1313
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:43,120
I think there's over 500 acres you know

1314
00:59:50,460 --> 00:59:46,450
and how far away from your farm was his

1315
00:59:53,850 --> 00:59:50,470
oh that farm was it's about four miles

1316
00:59:56,070 --> 00:59:53,860
away from the community iron and so he's

1317
00:59:57,870 --> 00:59:56,080
the only other person that you know of

1318
01:00:01,050 --> 00:59:57,880
that was victimized or their cattle was

1319
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:01,060
victimized in this manner I was talking

1320
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:03,730
to some of the farmers around who

1321
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:09,130
they're losing livestock and they did

1322
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:12,010
not know what that happened but when

1323
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:14,530
they describe to me the symptoms a lot

1324
01:00:21,270 --> 01:00:16,570
of the symptoms they matched what had

1325
01:00:24,390 --> 01:00:21,280
happened to my cattle but it's a at the

1326
01:00:27,630 --> 01:00:24,400
time I was not aware I knew that they

1327
01:00:30,510 --> 01:00:27,640
were lasers you know because the laser I

1328
01:00:32,790 --> 01:00:30,520
try to keep after you know busy with the

1329
01:00:34,470 --> 01:00:32,800
mark of the sciences and I knew that

1330
01:00:39,630 --> 01:00:34,480
about

1331
01:00:42,730 --> 01:00:39,640
bit over fifty years ago and the mazes

1332
01:00:45,370 --> 01:00:42,740
too had been brought to the knowledge of

1333
01:00:46,450 --> 01:00:45,380
the public at around 60 years ago you're

1334
01:00:49,810 --> 01:00:46,460
suggesting them

1335
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:49,820
Vernor that they're using laser beams to

1336
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:51,770
somehow do this manipulation

1337
01:00:57,550 --> 01:00:55,370
laser fire lasers or mazes but they use

1338
01:00:59,740 --> 01:00:57,560
what I've documented they were using a

1339
01:01:02,740 --> 01:00:59,750
combination of frequencies for example

1340
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:02,750
when you use a UV light UV light it

1341
01:01:08,470 --> 01:01:06,650
changes the oxygen into ozone and when

1342
01:01:10,570 --> 01:01:08,480
you using it or do you think frequencies

1343
01:01:14,470 --> 01:01:10,580
it can be done with microwaves all these

1344
01:01:16,390 --> 01:01:14,480
lasers you know and you oxidize the

1345
01:01:18,340 --> 01:01:16,400
atmospheric nitrogen and then this

1346
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:18,350
Energy's been focused on the nose of the

1347
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:21,530
animals that the animals please in this

1348
01:01:27,910 --> 01:01:25,010
modified bubble of air with devastating

1349
01:01:30,220 --> 01:01:27,920
consequences and what kills an animal is

1350
01:01:33,700 --> 01:01:30,230
what kills at twelve fourteen hundred

1351
01:01:35,980 --> 01:01:33,710
pound cow is no color killing a human

1352
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:35,990
being and they come down with a massive

1353
01:01:42,580 --> 01:01:39,170
heart attack you know I'm getting a

1354
01:01:45,580 --> 01:01:42,590
couple of thoughts here one is that you

1355
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:45,590
feel that your German heritage may

1356
01:01:51,940 --> 01:01:49,250
somehow be at play here because of the

1357
01:01:54,340 --> 01:01:51,950
other ranch or also being German that's

1358
01:01:56,830 --> 01:01:54,350
one thing so so I'm getting a sense that

1359
01:01:59,350 --> 01:01:56,840
you think your heritage may be a part of

1360
01:02:03,450 --> 01:01:59,360
this but I just need to know first

1361
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:03,460
because when I came here you know I

1362
01:02:08,590 --> 01:02:06,290
basically basically caught the last five

1363
01:02:11,550 --> 01:02:08,600
years the way things used to be in the

1364
01:02:15,180 --> 01:02:11,560
Maritimes and then in the mid seventies

1365
01:02:18,220 --> 01:02:15,190
there early in mid 70s a call came in

1366
01:02:19,870 --> 01:02:18,230
you basically if they wanted something

1367
01:02:23,970 --> 01:02:19,880
what you had you had to give it to them

1368
01:02:26,830 --> 01:02:23,980
I'm confused who came in a crowd of

1369
01:02:30,850 --> 01:02:26,840
whose let's follow basically a

1370
01:02:33,550 --> 01:02:30,860
grassroots crime movement localized

1371
01:02:35,650 --> 01:02:33,560
mafia whatever you call it you know

1372
01:02:38,980 --> 01:02:35,660
anything goes are we talking about

1373
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:38,990
organized crime or what basically at the

1374
01:02:45,010 --> 01:02:41,690
grassroots level and this was been

1375
01:02:47,859 --> 01:02:45,020
confirmed to me about two years later by

1376
01:02:49,930 --> 01:02:47,869
an RCMP officer you know okay

1377
01:02:53,049 --> 01:02:49,940
let's let's talk about law enforcement

1378
01:02:55,599 --> 01:02:53,059
here now how many head of cattle did you

1379
01:02:57,730 --> 01:02:55,609
lose before you reported this before

1380
01:03:00,099 --> 01:02:57,740
your suspicions that these your cows

1381
01:03:05,710 --> 01:03:00,109
were being victimized when did you first

1382
01:03:08,769 --> 01:03:05,720
report this to the RCMP and in early

1383
01:03:10,359 --> 01:03:08,779
nineteen nineteen seventy five when I

1384
01:03:12,190 --> 01:03:10,369
noticed here those vehicles stopped me

1385
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:12,200
on the boat and the place where they

1386
01:03:16,569 --> 01:03:15,170
stopped coincided with the only place

1387
01:03:18,430 --> 01:03:16,579
from where they could look into the

1388
01:03:20,259 --> 01:03:18,440
loafing barn I think it's fair to say

1389
01:03:22,180 --> 01:03:20,269
ladies and gentlemen that we have lots

1390
01:03:25,180 --> 01:03:22,190
and lots of questions to ask of our

1391
01:03:27,190 --> 01:03:25,190
guests and frankly I'm still kind of

1392
01:03:30,930 --> 01:03:27,200
curious about some of these things I

1393
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:30,940
don't understand every detail yet and

1394
01:03:34,390 --> 01:03:33,890
can we say there's no paranormal

1395
01:03:37,210 --> 01:03:34,400
connection

1396
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Vernor bock joining Jean and Kris you're

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in the para cast

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attack of the rock AIDS has been

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you'll never forget a former US military

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intelligence officer is haunted by

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against powerful fanatical enemies that

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threaten the lives of freedom loving

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1423
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has lost in its value against other

1424
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1425
01:04:57,089 --> 01:04:56,289
think about how inflation will change

1426
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1427
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1428
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1429
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the Weimar Republic put another way

1430
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who cares if your investments go up 10%

1431
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but you lose 40% of your purchasing

1432
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1433
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no one else's liability gold still buys

1434
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the same amount of stuff it always did

1435
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Gold does not require trust in a third

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1465
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1487
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1492
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1493
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reebok a farmer from canada telling us

1494
01:08:20,930 --> 01:08:17,280
about the mysterious deaths of so much

1495
01:08:23,060 --> 01:08:20,940
livestock now i wanted to drop in just

1496
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:23,070
one quick question here there's a story

1497
01:08:28,250 --> 01:08:25,290
I found going back on an online

1498
01:08:31,010 --> 01:08:28,260
publication called Huffington Post where

1499
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:31,020
this is the headline okay and maybe you

1500
01:08:36,710 --> 01:08:33,690
can answer what this means okay Varner

1501
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:36,720
Bock blames Deathrays aliens for cows

1502
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:41,250
deaths faces charges in Canada I'm not

1503
01:08:47,270 --> 01:08:43,650
hearing from you that we're seeing death

1504
01:08:51,470 --> 01:08:47,280
rays what's going on see I had another

1505
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:51,480
now the 4th court appearance McDonald

1506
01:08:58,820 --> 01:08:54,210
first court appearance as a provincial

1507
01:09:03,590 --> 01:08:58,830
court in December on the 7th of December

1508
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:03,600
I took the witness stand on my own

1509
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:08,370
behalf and a reporter from CBC Canadian

1510
01:09:13,070 --> 01:09:10,650
Broadcasting Corporation Kate Electric

1511
01:09:17,329 --> 01:09:13,080
was there and when I took the witness

1512
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:17,339
stand I said to the judge I said please

1513
01:09:25,190 --> 01:09:21,210
admonish members of the media that their

1514
01:09:28,070 --> 01:09:25,200
mandate is to report facts what has been

1515
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:28,080
said in this courtroom and their mandate

1516
01:09:35,570 --> 01:09:32,370
is not to write fiction and especially

1517
01:09:37,010 --> 01:09:35,580
when it is a national broadcaster like

1518
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:37,020
the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation

1519
01:09:43,610 --> 01:09:40,290
and the same thing is with Huffington

1520
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:43,620
Post you know it's more interesting you

1521
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:47,370
know to report fiction than fact as I

1522
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:50,810
think look the evidence I have gathered

1523
01:10:00,790 --> 01:09:55,530
it does not point to extraterrestrials

1524
01:10:04,020 --> 01:10:00,800
or you as oaths but it points very

1525
01:10:07,650 --> 01:10:04,030
distinct to what organized crime

1526
01:10:11,220 --> 01:10:07,660
at the local lever and remember some

1527
01:10:14,940 --> 01:10:11,230
walk elements in the military so why are

1528
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:14,950
they saying there's a et or some kind of

1529
01:10:20,010 --> 01:10:17,530
paranormal explanation after my court

1530
01:10:23,310 --> 01:10:20,020
appearance here on the when was it there

1531
01:10:24,930 --> 01:10:23,320
on the 11th of June when those stories

1532
01:10:28,830 --> 01:10:24,940
were being floated what I found

1533
01:10:31,590 --> 01:10:28,840
especially interesting on Huffington

1534
01:10:32,910 --> 01:10:31,600
Post of what interest should it be to

1535
01:10:35,220 --> 01:10:32,920
the Huffington Post

1536
01:10:38,820 --> 01:10:35,230
when a small beef farmer in eastern

1537
01:10:40,890 --> 01:10:38,830
Canada is in front of a court and make

1538
01:10:46,070 --> 01:10:40,900
up this story about you as o--'s and

1539
01:10:50,460 --> 01:10:46,080
aliens and within 24 hours there are

1540
01:10:55,020 --> 01:10:50,470
over 400 comments being posted most of

1541
01:10:58,560 --> 01:10:55,030
them derogatory about me you know but

1542
01:11:01,620 --> 01:10:58,570
about this you have oats and aliens this

1543
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:01,630
is what the RCMP have all your Canadian

1544
01:11:07,710 --> 01:11:04,210
Mounted Police want to make fly all in a

1545
01:11:11,130 --> 01:11:07,720
few years earlier but it didn't work in

1546
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:11,140
order to get credit me well that's yeah

1547
01:11:17,460 --> 01:11:13,050
that you leave it to the media to

1548
01:11:20,220 --> 01:11:17,470
sensationalize a case of this sort and

1549
01:11:22,050 --> 01:11:20,230
and put their own spin on it I've had a

1550
01:11:23,940 --> 01:11:22,060
number of conversations with you and

1551
01:11:26,610 --> 01:11:23,950
you've been pretty adamant to me that

1552
01:11:30,260 --> 01:11:26,620
you feel that this is more of a human

1553
01:11:32,910 --> 01:11:30,270
perpetrated wave of cattle deaths and

1554
01:11:35,370 --> 01:11:32,920
listen I don't know what happened in the

1555
01:11:38,730 --> 01:11:35,380
southeastern United States and so and

1556
01:11:40,440 --> 01:11:38,740
about UFOs and aliens but I believe in

1557
01:11:42,540 --> 01:11:40,450
the in the Holy Scriptures and in the

1558
01:11:45,780 --> 01:11:42,550
Bible and you wheat in the Bible in

1559
01:11:48,180 --> 01:11:45,790
Revelation you know and they're

1560
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:48,190
different passages in the Bible and if

1561
01:11:52,350 --> 01:11:50,170
you are Bible believing Christians you

1562
01:11:55,260 --> 01:11:52,360
have to believe the whole thing and not

1563
01:11:57,690 --> 01:11:55,270
just being selective you know and he

1564
01:12:01,220 --> 01:11:57,700
talks about the different entities you

1565
01:12:05,540 --> 01:12:01,230
know and you know as I say maybe and I'm

1566
01:12:09,270 --> 01:12:05,550
doing the disservice but and like

1567
01:12:13,410 --> 01:12:09,280
straight out front about the last year

1568
01:12:16,740 --> 01:12:13,420
in the summer I was in mountain in front

1569
01:12:17,850 --> 01:12:16,750
of Staples business depot in the parking

1570
01:12:19,290 --> 01:12:17,860
lot it was a

1571
01:12:23,129 --> 01:12:19,300
was about four o'clock in the afternoon

1572
01:12:26,450 --> 01:12:23,139
it was a blue sky and I saw one of those

1573
01:12:31,350 --> 01:12:26,460
Kentrell jets the c-135

1574
01:12:34,950 --> 01:12:31,360
flying at about I would say maybe 10,000

1575
01:12:37,859 --> 01:12:34,960
feet but it was not flying the general

1576
01:12:42,330 --> 01:12:37,869
direction of the air traffic but it was

1577
01:12:46,229 --> 01:12:42,340
flying towards the north west north

1578
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:46,239
northwest and I there in the parking lot

1579
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:49,570
in the sunshine I saw a flock of

1580
01:12:55,379 --> 01:12:52,570
seagulls here you know and then I looked

1581
01:12:57,090 --> 01:12:55,389
at the plane and I saw at first I

1582
01:12:59,850 --> 01:12:57,100
thought it was a small birds it was

1583
01:13:02,760 --> 01:12:59,860
buzzin wasn't the flying pretty high

1584
01:13:03,899 --> 01:13:02,770
you know white bird you know but then I

1585
01:13:06,390 --> 01:13:03,909
took a closer look

1586
01:13:08,850 --> 01:13:06,400
and then I thought this whatever it was

1587
01:13:14,970 --> 01:13:08,860
it was buzzing around that big tanker

1588
01:13:16,890 --> 01:13:14,980
plane you know and then I saw it

1589
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:16,900
Danish you know birds generally they

1590
01:13:21,899 --> 01:13:19,570
don't fly in white birds no but white

1591
01:13:24,209 --> 01:13:21,909
birds around said fly roughly about ten

1592
01:13:27,990 --> 01:13:24,219
to ten thousand feet altitude and that

1593
01:13:31,830 --> 01:13:28,000
can keep pace with a jet planes at sighs

1594
01:13:34,109 --> 01:13:31,840
at least 750 400 miles an hour but then

1595
01:13:39,510 --> 01:13:34,119
I got a closer look at it it was a round

1596
01:13:42,390 --> 01:13:39,520
object approximately 15 to 20 feet in

1597
01:13:45,930 --> 01:13:42,400
diameter you know compared to the size

1598
01:13:52,350 --> 01:13:45,940
of the plane and I would say the outside

1599
01:13:54,090 --> 01:13:52,360
rim was about 6 maybe 6 feet 6 and it's

1600
01:13:57,209 --> 01:13:54,100
got buzzing around the plane you know in

1601
01:14:00,870 --> 01:13:57,219
an erratic way and to the left there was

1602
01:14:03,750 --> 01:14:00,880
a small fluffy cloud and I just wanted

1603
01:14:05,820 --> 01:14:03,760
to turn around and get my camera from

1604
01:14:09,300 --> 01:14:05,830
the vehicle and when I next time I

1605
01:14:12,649 --> 01:14:09,310
looked that little thing what's gone

1606
01:14:14,700 --> 01:14:12,659
you know after it had directed had

1607
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:14,710
proceeded towards that little fluffy

1608
01:14:20,490 --> 01:14:18,730
cloud that's that's interesting I mean

1609
01:14:24,350 --> 01:14:20,500
we could we could probably come up with

1610
01:14:26,490 --> 01:14:24,360
a prosaic explanation for that but

1611
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you're not you're not suggesting that

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this somehow is tied in with your

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particular case here you

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saying that you saw this in conjunction

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with what you thought was a plane

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spraying chemtrails yeah and is that say

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about the Kenton Plains

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he has they adult not here on the East

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Coast and I've taken taken hundreds of

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photos over the last two and half years

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and that's a whole different subject and

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compensation you know we at the pair

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cast have have looked into this and

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quite frankly a lot of these persistent

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contrails I think are being

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misidentified as chemtrails there is

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quite a large weather modification in

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cloud seeding effort underway in North

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America and the silver iodide does tend

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to to help create cloud cover with the

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help of kerosene exhaust from jets but

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but let's get back to your case here um

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when did you you mentioned to me that

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you you contacted Linda Moulton Howe

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when did you first find out about her

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and when did you contact her and what

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did she say to you

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well I spoke to I think three times over

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the last six years or so the last time I

1640
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spoke to her about a year and a half ago

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and I referred her to my documentary and

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runs the pictures that Sheldon day had

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posted on the internet about a year

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earlier before I made the documentary

1645
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the Sheldon they had posted for me over

1646
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hundred pictures some of the same

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pictures they're in the documentary and

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I'd categorize them by the different

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type of energy beams that had been used

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and what injuries they were called and I

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were exact time I spoke to Linda mode

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now in a researcher about those pictures

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in the documentary and she said I only

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investigate cattle mutilations done by

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UFOs and alien so she's not interested

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in what you do and we'll have a lot more

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Paragon with Jeanne and Chris we got

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Verner Bock a farmer from Canada talking

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about the deaths of livestock that you

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were in touch with Linda Moulton Howe

1764
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she says that she only investigates the

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paranormal kind so why get in touch with

1766
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her in the first place if that's what

1767
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her point of view is what she then

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finally expressed very definite and I

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said I thought to myself what kind of

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pot investigators if you want to be

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investigate something you keep an open

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mind the key being here that before you

1773
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decide whether it's ET or anything

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extraterrestrial first figure out what's

1775
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going on what the cause might be and

1776
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make the cause be determined by the

1777
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evidence not what theory I hope to prove

1778
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yeah and as I think you know that but

1779
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then I looked at the personal profile I

1780
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think a dare to work for Lockheed Martin

1781
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military industrial sector and when she

1782
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started out her career she started by

1783
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the way out there with a silver spoon in

1784
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her mouth well whatever the point being

1785
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here she was not the right person to

1786
01:22:10,669 --> 01:22:06,690
contact but there are people out there

1787
01:22:13,220 --> 01:22:10,679
who maintain that cattle mutilations or

1788
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mysterious deaths you can decide which

1789
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group to include but these are caused by

1790
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some kind of intervention of a

1791
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paranormal source as I say I don't want

1792
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to deny that there is a possibility that

1793
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some of the cattle mutilations has been

1794
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done by other entities or some

1795
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secret military agenda and as we see the

1796
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military they are more more and more

1797
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controlled and working towards agenda 21

1798
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globalization wow we're just getting

1799
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into all sorts of possibilities here

1800
01:22:54,609 --> 01:22:52,650
okay so there's another conspiracy at

1801
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work here involving the military

1802
01:23:01,569 --> 01:22:56,729
globalization you mean creating a one

1803
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world government one world government a

1804
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corporate good ol global economy and

1805
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there is no room for small family farms

1806
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okay um what do you base this something

1807
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that you see in a conspiracy site or a

1808
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book or do you have some kind of

1809
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personal I don't think on spell sequence

1810
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abilities have been a fact of life

1811
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everything human being has been on the

1812
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earth yeah doesn't take much to create a

1813
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conspiracy but basically I think those

1814
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that want to very cool eyes when we talk

1815
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about conspiracies and I'm fine it right

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back at them and arson from what planet

1817
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did you just fly in well see I'm still

1818
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trying to wrap my head around why you

1819
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have been targeted why you have been

1820
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selected to be victimized that's the you

1821
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know you've you need some sort of

1822
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motivation you need a motive to know

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that I'm not the I'm not the smartest

1824
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guy you know so I and I don't pick up

1825
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right away on the on the clues but I'm

1826
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very persistent and I had a right over

1827
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30 years over 37 years to put that

1828
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together plus I think I've been on this

1829
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planet now for over 70 years and if you

1830
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don't get the things that I to me you

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know can shed light on them then you

1832
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look at long term yeah exactly

1833
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and that's important now let's let's

1834
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talk about the local veterinarian

1835
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response to your cases obviously when

1836
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these animals started coming down with

1837
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strange unexplained burns

1838
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obviously the lungs were impacted

1839
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because I've seen some of the autopsy

1840
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photographs

1841
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of the lungs and obviously these animals

1842
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it's it's unusual to see the kinds of

1843
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afflictions that these animals died from

1844
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now what when you first approached your

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local veterinarian or veterinarians I

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would imagine what was their response to

1847
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this and the first cows that died the

1848
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next morning I found out the better nine

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the one that had been there is the day

1850
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before dr. Liske and he came out at one

1851
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ten o'clock and he to do an autopsy and

1852
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when he cut the call open right away one

1853
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thing what I noticed there was an

1854
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extreme sour smell comes from the woman

1855
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and there was massive corrosive damage

1856
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inside lining of the woman was peeling

1857
01:25:40,310 --> 01:25:37,289
right off so I pointed that out to the

1858
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doctor and he said oh that's normal

1859
01:25:48,139 --> 01:25:44,010
after the animal has been dead for half

1860
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a day and I thought I said no that's not

1861
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normal it does not the stomach acid is

1862
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not that strong that it caught that part

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01:25:57,259 --> 01:25:55,019
of the damage and besides the point the

1864
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college still was alive at two o'clock

1865
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in the morning and she still was warm

1866
01:26:06,139 --> 01:26:03,179
when I when I came out in the in the

1867
01:26:09,139 --> 01:26:06,149
morning you know so she had died just

1868
01:26:10,909 --> 01:26:09,149
only a short short while earlier and

1869
01:26:13,189 --> 01:26:10,919
what were the weather weather conditions

1870
01:26:16,609 --> 01:26:13,199
this is early spring in the Brunswick

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sunshiny morning and there was just only

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a mild force during the night okay so

1873
01:26:24,829 --> 01:26:21,719
you were right down around freezing then

1874
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:24,839
yeah animals that animal would stay

1875
01:26:30,259 --> 01:26:27,449
pristine for quite a while actually for

1876
01:26:32,449 --> 01:26:30,269
at least that day you know I always be

1877
01:26:34,250 --> 01:26:32,459
checking it back checking right there on

1878
01:26:35,989 --> 01:26:34,260
the other boat there was a small

1879
01:26:39,469 --> 01:26:35,999
slaughterhouse so I asked the old

1880
01:26:41,779 --> 01:26:39,479
follows next time you kill a cow okay

1881
01:26:44,389 --> 01:26:41,789
you kill a cow keep the stomach there

1882
01:26:45,979 --> 01:26:44,399
keep it close and I want to see for

1883
01:26:47,750 --> 01:26:45,989
about the day and I want to see if the

1884
01:26:50,659 --> 01:26:47,760
stomach acid is called the kind of

1885
01:26:53,719 --> 01:26:50,669
damage you know and a day later I picked

1886
01:26:58,040 --> 01:26:53,729
up I had to look at this it's a stomach

1887
01:27:01,369 --> 01:26:58,050
and there was nothing no corrosive

1888
01:27:02,510 --> 01:27:01,379
damage to the inside of the stomach but

1889
01:27:05,300 --> 01:27:02,520
anyway anyway

1890
01:27:07,700 --> 01:27:05,310
then I pointed out to the veterinarian I

1891
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:07,710
noticed a massive hemorrhaging of the of

1892
01:27:12,230 --> 01:27:10,530
the heart muscle and he said your

1893
01:27:15,590 --> 01:27:12,240
message a mature heart muscle

1894
01:27:17,810 --> 01:27:15,600
I said I asked in what can cause it all

1895
01:27:20,870 --> 01:27:17,820
probably some kind of poisoning

1896
01:27:23,480 --> 01:27:20,880
Alti makes that kind of an assessment he

1897
01:27:26,450 --> 01:27:23,490
cut about the size of an open hand and

1898
01:27:28,910 --> 01:27:26,460
patched out of the stomach war then he

1899
01:27:32,480 --> 01:27:28,920
took his hatchet and he's great and

1900
01:27:34,850 --> 01:27:32,490
discarded all the cold lining that was

1901
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:34,860
peeling off he discarded it on the

1902
01:27:41,180 --> 01:27:37,890
ground and then to top it off he went to

1903
01:27:43,790 --> 01:27:41,190
a panel of dirty water and dip the rest

1904
01:27:46,010 --> 01:27:43,800
of the sample into the dirty water and

1905
01:27:48,650 --> 01:27:46,020
then he put it in his clean plastic bag

1906
01:27:51,050 --> 01:27:48,660
to forward it to the pathology lab to

1907
01:27:54,650 --> 01:27:51,060
test for pathogens and I just take my

1908
01:27:56,180 --> 01:27:54,660
egg it doesn't take a rocket scientist

1909
01:28:00,080 --> 01:27:56,190
to realize that's not how you properly

1910
01:28:03,260 --> 01:28:00,090
gather forensic evidence of incompetency

1911
01:28:05,780 --> 01:28:03,270
and it's basically lying to me

1912
01:28:08,060 --> 01:28:05,790
I've encountered now for the last 37

1913
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:08,070
years with the veterinarian doesn't that

1914
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:09,570
make you don't want to give up this

1915
01:28:13,460 --> 01:28:11,610
business or maybe take your work

1916
01:28:17,750 --> 01:28:13,470
somewhere else why would you put up with

1917
01:28:21,440 --> 01:28:17,760
so many years of this abuse under the

1918
01:28:23,690 --> 01:28:21,450
delusion that Canada was a country the

1919
01:28:25,700 --> 01:28:23,700
bastion of freedom and justice one of

1920
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:25,710
the last great countries in the world

1921
01:28:30,830 --> 01:28:28,650
but in the mean time I found out what

1922
01:28:32,420 --> 01:28:30,840
has been swept all underneath the

1923
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:32,430
Canadian carpet over the last few

1924
01:28:36,950 --> 01:28:34,290
hundred years and it is outright

1925
01:28:39,590 --> 01:28:36,960
disgusting you're saying that this kind

1926
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:39,600
of phenomenon has occurred elsewhere for

1927
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:41,810
all those years

1928
01:28:47,810 --> 01:28:45,210
but I mean the corruption in the system

1929
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:47,820
you know and you people in south of the

1930
01:28:54,110 --> 01:28:50,850
border you you are facing one big enemy

1931
01:28:57,350 --> 01:28:54,120
you know that basically has lured you

1932
01:29:00,650 --> 01:28:57,360
into one war after another for the sake

1933
01:29:05,630 --> 01:29:00,660
of the British Empire and when you look

1934
01:29:07,610 --> 01:29:05,640
at other yesterday you know it's I got

1935
01:29:10,340 --> 01:29:07,620
quite a wake-up call over the last two

1936
01:29:13,850 --> 01:29:10,350
years to three years when I came here to

1937
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:13,860
North America you know I was born I grew

1938
01:29:18,770 --> 01:29:15,449
up over there in Germany and

1939
01:29:22,580 --> 01:29:18,780
our part of Germany was under occupied

1940
01:29:24,500 --> 01:29:22,590
by the British you know and all what the

1941
01:29:28,390 --> 01:29:24,510
history and everything you know

1942
01:29:32,859 --> 01:29:28,400
and the school the curricula it was all

1943
01:29:36,020 --> 01:29:32,869
determined by the occupation force but

1944
01:29:37,279 --> 01:29:36,030
my parents they went through the first

1945
01:29:39,890 --> 01:29:37,289
world war they went to the Second World

1946
01:29:42,109 --> 01:29:39,900
War so did some of my relatives and some

1947
01:29:44,149 --> 01:29:42,119
some of the neighbors they went through

1948
01:29:48,649 --> 01:29:44,159
the Second World War some of them were

1949
01:29:50,989 --> 01:29:48,659
prisoners of war and so we knew more at

1950
01:29:55,009 --> 01:29:50,999
the grassroots level then what the media

1951
01:29:57,229 --> 01:29:55,019
or the education systems told us but

1952
01:29:59,600 --> 01:29:57,239
when I came here to North America you

1953
01:30:01,390 --> 01:29:59,610
know I basically came to the conclusion

1954
01:30:04,729 --> 01:30:01,400
North American people have been

1955
01:30:08,629 --> 01:30:04,739
basically fed for at least the London

1956
01:30:12,350 --> 01:30:08,639
last 100 years such a filtered version

1957
01:30:15,020 --> 01:30:12,360
of history and what happened and they

1958
01:30:18,199 --> 01:30:15,030
that may have been lured into two world

1959
01:30:20,089 --> 01:30:18,209
wars you know to do the dirty work for

1960
01:30:22,430 --> 01:30:20,099
the banker I'll tell you what we'll get

1961
01:30:25,339 --> 01:30:22,440
into a lot more of this that does sound

1962
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:25,349
like a failure to me we've got Verner

1963
01:30:30,130 --> 01:30:28,170
bak joining gene and Chris you're in the

1964
01:30:35,810 --> 01:30:30,140
para cast

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2036
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2037
01:33:58,899 --> 01:33:57,020
going back about a year and a half ago I

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began to learn about the incredible

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health effects of youngevity products

2040
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Aran dykes lost 92 pounds we're going to

2041
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2042
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:10,340
break down what happened your story I've

2043
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worked really hard with diet and

2044
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exercise to try to lose weight but I

2045
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just didn't get the results it just

2046
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didn't happen then I saw what you were

2047
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doing with em for steam calm I wasn't

2048
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even trying to lose weight but I got it

2049
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because I wanted to feel better energy I

2050
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wanted that nutrition didn't even

2051
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understand how that could kickstart my

2052
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own weight loss goals but the products

2053
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did that for me I found myself suddenly

2054
01:34:35,950 --> 01:34:34,040
losing weight more energetic wanting to

2055
01:34:37,570 --> 01:34:35,960
exercise wanting to eat the right foods

2056
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:37,580
and they don't even advertise it as

2057
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2058
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2063
01:35:05,049 --> 01:34:59,560
nice reading and listening to the parrot

2064
01:35:07,599 --> 01:35:05,059
guess Chris has his trickster voice

2065
01:35:09,909 --> 01:35:07,609
enabled Verner Bock joining gene and

2066
01:35:12,189 --> 01:35:09,919
Chris and the power cast I'm still

2067
01:35:14,500 --> 01:35:12,199
really not focusing on this in the

2068
01:35:17,889 --> 01:35:14,510
property maybe it's my fifth I really

2069
01:35:20,290 --> 01:35:17,899
don't understand here how the conspiracy

2070
01:35:24,099 --> 01:35:20,300
involving the killing of your livestock

2071
01:35:25,839 --> 01:35:24,109
is part of a global conspiracy what I

2072
01:35:28,989 --> 01:35:25,849
still understand the purpose of it why

2073
01:35:31,989 --> 01:35:28,999
are they killing this livestock listen

2074
01:35:34,239 --> 01:35:31,999
what I said over the years gradually I

2075
01:35:36,189 --> 01:35:34,249
was taking up bits and pieces so they're

2076
01:35:39,060 --> 01:35:36,199
got the real mindset of some of my

2077
01:35:41,049 --> 01:35:39,070
neighbors as they're very cunningly

2078
01:35:43,989 --> 01:35:41,059
disguising what they were really all

2079
01:35:46,169 --> 01:35:43,999
about this was about 15 years ago

2080
01:35:49,810 --> 01:35:46,179
one neighbor a good church-going lady

2081
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:49,820
you know she said to me all the land was

2082
01:35:54,879 --> 01:35:52,010
planned to all forefathers and their

2083
01:35:58,209 --> 01:35:54,889
descendants for all times you know the

2084
01:36:01,599 --> 01:35:58,219
original grants you know the original

2085
01:36:04,750 --> 01:36:01,609
and clans and I happened to you years

2086
01:36:07,540 --> 01:36:04,760
earlier I to get a copy of the land

2087
01:36:10,569 --> 01:36:07,550
grant a grant map and who bear the

2088
01:36:12,270 --> 01:36:10,579
original families at first the European

2089
01:36:15,159 --> 01:36:12,280
families that first settled this land

2090
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:15,169
and as I say this lady said the rent for

2091
01:36:19,599 --> 01:36:17,449
10 to 12 for passengers he sends four

2092
01:36:21,549 --> 01:36:19,609
times so I counted right back and how

2093
01:36:22,770 --> 01:36:21,559
about when they sell it oh it belongs to

2094
01:36:25,299 --> 01:36:22,780
them anyway

2095
01:36:28,869 --> 01:36:25,309
okay so she's saying the lane doesn't

2096
01:36:31,929 --> 01:36:28,879
belong to you yeah okay so why not just

2097
01:36:33,839 --> 01:36:31,939
go to court and assert their point of

2098
01:36:37,810 --> 01:36:33,849
view and saying okay it's not his land

2099
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:37,820
we feel the land belongs somewhere else

2100
01:36:41,739 --> 01:36:40,010
why go through all this you're saying

2101
01:36:43,599 --> 01:36:41,749
they are responsible for killing your

2102
01:36:46,449 --> 01:36:43,609
livestock are they trying to encourage

2103
01:36:49,179 --> 01:36:46,459
you to get you to leave what this

2104
01:36:52,239 --> 01:36:49,189
basically tells about the mindset of

2105
01:36:54,279 --> 01:36:52,249
some of the old families here some of

2106
01:36:56,770 --> 01:36:54,289
the old families a lot of the old

2107
01:36:59,679 --> 01:36:56,780
families they're decent people but then

2108
01:37:01,899 --> 01:36:59,689
we got some dirt bags and some of them a

2109
01:37:03,370 --> 01:37:01,909
lot of them they got the chip on their

2110
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:03,380
shoulder because they

2111
01:37:07,810 --> 01:37:05,690
over from the British ayats that they

2112
01:37:10,209 --> 01:37:07,820
are still the master basically what I'm

2113
01:37:13,660 --> 01:37:10,219
hearing Verner is is that your German

2114
01:37:16,390 --> 01:37:13,670
heritage may be what is causing you to

2115
01:37:19,570 --> 01:37:16,400
be the the focus and the target of these

2116
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:19,580
of these majors and lasers

2117
01:37:24,310 --> 01:37:22,130
of course the according to the Canadian

2118
01:37:27,300 --> 01:37:24,320
government they're they're blaming you

2119
01:37:30,910 --> 01:37:27,310
for not taking care of your herd now

2120
01:37:33,189 --> 01:37:30,920
obviously if if you're rocking the boat

2121
01:37:35,050 --> 01:37:33,199
and you're you're calling these people

2122
01:37:37,990 --> 01:37:35,060
out I mean I've talked to you at length

2123
01:37:40,649 --> 01:37:38,000
and you've gone through some of the the

2124
01:37:42,430 --> 01:37:40,659
amazing permutations of your you know

2125
01:37:45,490 --> 01:37:42,440
dealings with the Canadian government

2126
01:37:47,850 --> 01:37:45,500
about this do you feel that it is your

2127
01:37:51,850 --> 01:37:47,860
German your German heritage that has

2128
01:37:55,830 --> 01:37:51,860
many things come together because I hate

2129
01:37:58,780 --> 01:37:55,840
injustice I hate criminals especially

2130
01:38:01,240 --> 01:37:58,790
the criminals I've been counted and that

2131
01:38:04,030 --> 01:38:01,250
want to put up the image of being the

2132
01:38:06,729 --> 01:38:04,040
Honorable citizens in the community and

2133
01:38:08,590 --> 01:38:06,739
as I say I've been I've been farming now

2134
01:38:10,930 --> 01:38:08,600
for over 50 years

2135
01:38:12,879 --> 01:38:10,940
pretty near fifty five years you know

2136
01:38:15,550 --> 01:38:12,889
what I think if I was in your position

2137
01:38:18,729 --> 01:38:15,560
where I was being harassed by my

2138
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:18,739
neighbors or whatever I'd sell my farm

2139
01:38:24,610 --> 01:38:21,290
and get the heck out of there why go

2140
01:38:27,370 --> 01:38:24,620
where you're not wanted but listen I did

2141
01:38:31,090 --> 01:38:27,380
not think that it would have been a 37

2142
01:38:35,500 --> 01:38:31,100
year haul you know I thought it was an

2143
01:38:37,060 --> 01:38:35,510
isolated case but after 37 years and

2144
01:38:39,780 --> 01:38:37,070
after I've seen the corruption all

2145
01:38:43,149 --> 01:38:39,790
through the government you know and

2146
01:38:46,180 --> 01:38:43,159
incidentally I am being called into

2147
01:38:49,870 --> 01:38:46,190
court upon contact charges they are

2148
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:49,880
presented all the evidence in court you

2149
01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:53,449
know under the auspices of the Minister

2150
01:38:58,479 --> 01:38:55,489
of Justice the Attorney General for New

2151
01:39:01,149 --> 01:38:58,489
Brunswick very close play she's a lawyer

2152
01:39:03,550 --> 01:39:01,159
right but the question here is after

2153
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:03,560
being hauled in the court did they find

2154
01:39:07,450 --> 01:39:05,570
you did they threaten you with jail what

2155
01:39:08,379 --> 01:39:07,460
happened what's the oh no no no this is

2156
01:39:11,050 --> 01:39:08,389
still ongoing

2157
01:39:13,149 --> 01:39:11,060
I've hit no my fists court appearances

2158
01:39:15,990 --> 01:39:13,159
my next court appearance is supposed to

2159
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:16,000
be I think on the 23rd of June

2160
01:39:22,270 --> 01:39:19,610
this year and I said to the judge the

2161
01:39:24,939 --> 01:39:22,280
way I'm being gassed day after day but

2162
01:39:27,189 --> 01:39:24,949
ever I go outside you know you're just

2163
01:39:30,220 --> 01:39:27,199
waitin that I kick the bucket and then

2164
01:39:32,229 --> 01:39:30,230
the the the problem of earner is gone so

2165
01:39:37,299 --> 01:39:32,239
if you're gone they just take over your

2166
01:39:39,910 --> 01:39:37,309
land and this is what one of this family

2167
01:39:42,279 --> 01:39:39,920
click said to me you know when he kept

2168
01:39:44,709 --> 01:39:42,289
gas me and they kept messing around with

2169
01:39:49,270 --> 01:39:44,719
me with lasers and everything you know

2170
01:39:51,700 --> 01:39:49,280
like like chemical warfare but it's only

2171
01:39:54,549 --> 01:39:51,710
happening - Verner buck it's not

2172
01:39:57,310 --> 01:39:54,559
happening anybody else not just only to

2173
01:39:59,770 --> 01:39:57,320
me but most of the other people they

2174
01:40:01,450 --> 01:39:59,780
didn't know about it and when they know

2175
01:40:03,700 --> 01:40:01,460
about it they are so scared they don't

2176
01:40:05,919 --> 01:40:03,710
want to stand up against this bunch of

2177
01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:05,929
this organized crime okay so you're

2178
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:08,090
saying there are other people there are

2179
01:40:12,580 --> 01:40:09,650
other people who are having the same

2180
01:40:15,129 --> 01:40:12,590
problem okay are these fellow farmers in

2181
01:40:18,100 --> 01:40:15,139
your area or what what I said to you

2182
01:40:20,770 --> 01:40:18,110
just as a farmer there have been when

2183
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:20,780
Michael started that in the RCMP in

2184
01:40:25,990 --> 01:40:23,449
order to at first it's not investigate

2185
01:40:27,850 --> 01:40:26,000
and when I name some names of some

2186
01:40:30,100 --> 01:40:27,860
automobile citizens in the communities

2187
01:40:31,810 --> 01:40:30,110
that has been hanging out in the they

2188
01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:31,820
belong to the same family clan

2189
01:40:35,319 --> 01:40:34,130
you know then suddenly from day for one

2190
01:40:39,339 --> 01:40:35,329
day to the next I didn't want to know

2191
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:39,349
anything anymore about and then but I

2192
01:40:43,359 --> 01:40:41,570
was under the gun this bunch they get

2193
01:40:45,370 --> 01:40:43,369
killed my animals you know when I was

2194
01:40:48,759 --> 01:40:45,380
coming out in in the morning some of the

2195
01:40:50,919 --> 01:40:48,769
beautiful animals you know then suddenly

2196
01:40:51,430 --> 01:40:50,929
they within two three days he would sit

2197
01:40:54,250 --> 01:40:51,440
right down

2198
01:40:57,100 --> 01:40:54,260
Louis three four hundred pounds and they

2199
01:40:59,259 --> 01:40:57,110
look like walking skeletons you know and

2200
01:41:02,740 --> 01:40:59,269
then a few days later they were dead and

2201
01:41:05,109 --> 01:41:02,750
this bunch of young hellhounds this

2202
01:41:07,209 --> 01:41:05,119
bunch of young clique they were gonna

2203
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:07,219
haunt at daytime at night allowed my

2204
01:41:12,069 --> 01:41:10,489
premises and more and more animals start

2205
01:41:14,319 --> 01:41:12,079
to dine in the police suddenly didn't

2206
01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:14,329
want to know anything anymore but by the

2207
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:16,130
time I found out already so much

2208
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:18,730
Jennifer's been approached by the RCMP

2209
01:41:24,970 --> 01:41:21,170
two high-ranking officers they came to

2210
01:41:26,979 --> 01:41:24,980
see me because the day before I done

2211
01:41:29,020 --> 01:41:26,989
things my way you know the trans-canada

2212
01:41:31,690 --> 01:41:29,030
but I did not

2213
01:41:33,190 --> 01:41:31,700
offend against any kind of the law you

2214
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:33,200
know but I raised that the stink on the

2215
01:41:36,190 --> 01:41:33,890
trans-canada

2216
01:41:38,170 --> 01:41:36,200
and it created it quite an embarrassing

2217
01:41:40,180 --> 01:41:38,180
situation for the Royal Canadian Mounted

2218
01:41:42,580 --> 01:41:40,190
Police the next morning I had a visit

2219
01:41:44,350 --> 01:41:42,590
from two high-ranking officers and he

2220
01:41:46,810 --> 01:41:44,360
said to me you're doing an awful lot of

2221
01:41:48,430 --> 01:41:46,820
driving lately I said so what are they

2222
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:48,440
me in a fix and say I'm against how much

2223
01:41:52,420 --> 01:41:50,210
driving they can do in this country I

2224
01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:52,430
said what do you want my car license I

2225
01:41:57,220 --> 01:41:55,250
got the driver's license you know what

2226
01:41:59,830 --> 01:41:57,230
do you think how it will make us look

2227
01:42:01,780 --> 01:41:59,840
when you find all out all those things

2228
01:42:03,670 --> 01:42:01,790
and we don't I said your image is

2229
01:42:05,950 --> 01:42:03,680
already pretty scratched anyway because

2230
01:42:08,050 --> 01:42:05,960
a few scandals said surface you know

2231
01:42:10,510 --> 01:42:08,060
we're multigrain walked in burn the barn

2232
01:42:12,940 --> 01:42:10,520
in Quebec another Mountie addressed and

2233
01:42:16,300 --> 01:42:12,950
placed explosives in a supermarket you

2234
01:42:19,390 --> 01:42:16,310
know but anyway I was being picked up

2235
01:42:21,310 --> 01:42:19,400
and put in the loony bin yo you know

2236
01:42:23,530 --> 01:42:21,320
you're gonna find that anywhere you're

2237
01:42:25,300 --> 01:42:23,540
gonna find good eggs and bad eggs in law

2238
01:42:27,070 --> 01:42:25,310
enforcement in legal community and

2239
01:42:31,690 --> 01:42:27,080
government and government you're gonna

2240
01:42:33,670 --> 01:42:31,700
find a higher percentage I let me ask

2241
01:42:36,580 --> 01:42:33,680
you a really important question

2242
01:42:40,930 --> 01:42:36,590
you are claiming that your animals are

2243
01:42:45,010 --> 01:42:40,940
being targeted and that there's physical

2244
01:42:47,950 --> 01:42:45,020
evidence that supports your research and

2245
01:42:50,950 --> 01:42:47,960
your conclusions have do you have any

2246
01:42:53,770 --> 01:42:50,960
scientific evidence that backs up and

2247
01:42:56,830 --> 01:42:53,780
proves your theory correct you have

2248
01:42:58,330 --> 01:42:56,840
anything that you can show the court the

2249
01:43:01,090 --> 01:42:58,340
law-enforcement community in the

2250
01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:01,100
scientific community that that backs up

2251
01:43:07,210 --> 01:43:04,370
your conclusions I can go even further I

2252
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:07,220
spoke to some of the scientists who had

2253
01:43:13,090 --> 01:43:10,370
done the research dr. Bullard and dr.

2254
01:43:15,430 --> 01:43:13,100
Zee Victor and whose research was

2255
01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:15,440
published in PubMed one of the most

2256
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:18,290
reputable scientific publications in in

2257
01:43:23,710 --> 01:43:21,890
North America they looked at forensic

2258
01:43:26,710 --> 01:43:23,720
evidence from your from your animals I'm

2259
01:43:29,890 --> 01:43:26,720
talking about your animals have you had

2260
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:29,900
any cropsey's done properly by a

2261
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:32,810
veterinary pathologist who has examined

2262
01:43:38,290 --> 01:43:35,210
tissue samples and determined that your

2263
01:43:42,819 --> 01:43:38,300
your conclusions that your theories are

2264
01:43:45,339 --> 01:43:42,829
viable this whole Department of a geek

2265
01:43:48,100 --> 01:43:45,349
every Minister of Agriculture knowledge

2266
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:48,110
of about it and what I've encountered

2267
01:43:54,339 --> 01:43:50,690
all visit veterans and with the

2268
01:43:58,439 --> 01:43:54,349
pathology lab its outright scandalous

2269
01:44:01,720 --> 01:43:58,449
about five years ago there was a new

2270
01:44:06,370 --> 01:44:01,730
SPCA inspector she was recommended to me

2271
01:44:08,950 --> 01:44:06,380
and she picked up one cancer that just

2272
01:44:11,350 --> 01:44:08,960
died the day before and she said I fell

2273
01:44:14,319 --> 01:44:11,360
forward to head to the pathology lab in

2274
01:44:16,510 --> 01:44:14,329
frightened she filled out the forms and

2275
01:44:18,700 --> 01:44:16,520
everything wrapped it in plastic and she

2276
01:44:21,459 --> 01:44:18,710
said one of our people is going to

2277
01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:21,469
frighten and they were bring it here and

2278
01:44:26,229 --> 01:44:24,170
I had two more lungs in the Deep Freeze

2279
01:44:31,299 --> 01:44:26,239
of two other animals that had been

2280
01:44:33,370 --> 01:44:31,309
killed and she took them too and then a

2281
01:44:35,950 --> 01:44:33,380
few days about three days later I

2282
01:44:37,990 --> 01:44:35,960
contacted that lady and I said did you

2283
01:44:40,870 --> 01:44:38,000
get anything back from the pathology lab

2284
01:44:43,540 --> 01:44:40,880
she said no but she said it might cost

2285
01:44:46,270 --> 01:44:43,550
quite a bit money so I phoned up the

2286
01:44:50,770 --> 01:44:46,280
pathology lab and I spoke to a dr. James

2287
01:44:54,540 --> 01:44:50,780
Gulf and I asked him about and if they

2288
01:44:58,109 --> 01:44:54,550
had any said is that done any any

2289
01:45:01,649 --> 01:44:58,119
testing and any examination and he said

2290
01:45:05,410 --> 01:45:01,659
no we got the phone calls from the SPCA

2291
01:45:08,379 --> 01:45:05,420
to destroy the specimen and I informed

2292
01:45:10,510 --> 01:45:08,389
him I said listen those specimens are

2293
01:45:12,700 --> 01:45:10,520
still my property and then you know what

2294
01:45:15,250 --> 01:45:12,710
we have to focus on this mystery again

2295
01:45:17,350 --> 01:45:15,260
in our next segment and also we have

2296
01:45:19,780 --> 01:45:17,360
questions from our listeners to pose of

2297
01:45:22,149 --> 01:45:19,790
Vernor buck about us encounters his

2298
01:45:26,280 --> 01:45:22,159
experiences with gene and Christian the

2299
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here's Jane Steinberg with Jean and

2358
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Chris Verner buck farmer from Canada

2359
01:48:09,570 --> 01:48:07,270
joins us explaining why he believes that

2360
01:48:12,810 --> 01:48:09,580
the authorities have singled him out for

2361
01:48:16,170 --> 01:48:12,820
harassment trying to I guess get rid of

2362
01:48:17,970 --> 01:48:16,180
his cattle in rather nefarious ways okay

2363
01:48:20,810 --> 01:48:17,980
well you know as I mentioned of Verner

2364
01:48:23,250 --> 01:48:20,820
when we talked and originally and I

2365
01:48:25,650 --> 01:48:23,260
suggested that we open this up for

2366
01:48:27,060 --> 01:48:25,660
questions from our listeners I do have a

2367
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:27,070
number of questions here and I'd like to

2368
01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:29,650
go through a few of these this one comes

2369
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:32,050
from Poulter worst who's actually in

2370
01:48:35,970 --> 01:48:34,090
Germany it's one of our German listeners

2371
01:48:39,030 --> 01:48:35,980
and he wonders how often do these

2372
01:48:40,830 --> 01:48:39,040
attacks happen per year have have there

2373
01:48:43,530 --> 01:48:40,840
been periods when the frequency of the

2374
01:48:45,480 --> 01:48:43,540
attacks changed or some methods of

2375
01:48:48,390 --> 01:48:45,490
killing your poor animals were used more

2376
01:48:50,430 --> 01:48:48,400
often less or not at all in other words

2377
01:48:53,640 --> 01:48:50,440
give us a sense of how this thing absent

2378
01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:53,650
flows through your herd well I want to

2379
01:48:59,160 --> 01:48:57,010
say there was a distinct pattern when I

2380
01:49:01,140 --> 01:48:59,170
got the cattle through the show the

2381
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:01,150
first part of the event by the end of

2382
01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:03,370
the winter you know generally that's

2383
01:49:08,130 --> 01:49:05,170
when the killing started over period of

2384
01:49:09,590 --> 01:49:08,140
generally about the month what you're

2385
01:49:13,260 --> 01:49:09,600
saying is this is an early spring

2386
01:49:16,530 --> 01:49:13,270
phenomenon yeah they came in good shape

2387
01:49:19,620 --> 01:49:16,540
for the winter and in early early spring

2388
01:49:23,730 --> 01:49:19,630
you know that's when the killing started

2389
01:49:26,250 --> 01:49:23,740
they because by the end of the winter we

2390
01:49:28,140 --> 01:49:26,260
get a lot of snow here you know and then

2391
01:49:31,830 --> 01:49:28,150
towards the end of the data ends of the

2392
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:31,840
winter we have warm attempt to were

2393
01:49:36,420 --> 01:49:34,090
doing that during the daytime it melts

2394
01:49:39,210 --> 01:49:36,430
the top of the snow and then doing

2395
01:49:44,240 --> 01:49:39,220
tonight we have maybe 15 below you know

2396
01:49:47,310 --> 01:49:44,250
first in central gate center gate and

2397
01:49:52,170 --> 01:49:47,320
then halfway through the night you ever

2398
01:49:54,570 --> 01:49:52,180
are cast on the snow and and you can

2399
01:49:57,180 --> 01:49:54,580
walk the person can walk anywhere and

2400
01:49:58,800 --> 01:49:57,190
not leave any tracks okay

2401
01:49:59,310 --> 01:49:58,810
how about how about late summer and

2402
01:50:01,800 --> 01:49:59,320
early

2403
01:50:05,780 --> 01:50:01,810
for know very little during that time

2404
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:05,790
and then during cemento when we had a

2405
01:50:11,550 --> 01:50:09,010
heavy when we had a snowstorm during the

2406
01:50:16,649 --> 01:50:11,560
night then the snow would cover up the

2407
01:50:19,490 --> 01:50:16,659
tracks yeah okay so we're talking but

2408
01:50:24,660 --> 01:50:19,500
primarily a late winter early spring

2409
01:50:26,729 --> 01:50:24,670
time that quota you know sooner or later

2410
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:26,739
we get you out of there so they kept

2411
01:50:30,899 --> 01:50:28,810
chipping away in order to win me

2412
01:50:34,290 --> 01:50:30,909
financially yeah but this has happened

2413
01:50:36,330 --> 01:50:34,300
for over thirty years you think they

2414
01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:36,340
give up in fact it would seem to me that

2415
01:50:41,430 --> 01:50:38,770
the actors the players in this

2416
01:50:42,930 --> 01:50:41,440
conspiracy obviously had to have changed

2417
01:50:45,750 --> 01:50:42,940
it could be the same group of people all

2418
01:50:47,669 --> 01:50:45,760
those humans the same family and no it's

2419
01:50:49,620 --> 01:50:47,679
the second and third generation how

2420
01:50:51,839 --> 01:50:49,630
about blackleg I have a question here

2421
01:50:53,850 --> 01:50:51,849
from Conrad Hartman he wonders if any of

2422
01:50:57,390 --> 01:50:53,860
your cattle ever suffered from blackleg

2423
01:50:59,310 --> 01:50:57,400
no no no no what is that by the way for

2424
01:51:03,600 --> 01:50:59,320
those of us who are not trained on the

2425
01:51:06,689 --> 01:51:03,610
farm well Black Lake the normally they

2426
01:51:12,350 --> 01:51:06,699
used to kids and vaccinations and it

2427
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:12,360
would occur some late late July August

2428
01:51:18,330 --> 01:51:15,610
what is it I never encountered it

2429
01:51:23,970 --> 01:51:18,340
personally understanding what is a

2430
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:23,980
disease what is it it's a it's leading

2431
01:51:30,689 --> 01:51:28,810
up some of the mundane normal diseases

2432
01:51:32,819 --> 01:51:30,699
that you encounter as a cattle rancher

2433
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:32,829
what are some of the you know your your

2434
01:51:37,140 --> 01:51:35,050
just run-of-the-mill type afflictions

2435
01:51:38,939 --> 01:51:37,150
that cattle cattle go through that

2436
01:51:41,390 --> 01:51:38,949
you've experienced in your herd what are

2437
01:51:45,149 --> 01:51:41,400
some of the other other medical issues

2438
01:51:47,339 --> 01:51:45,159
well most of the medical issues is that

2439
01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:47,349
you might eventually lose through the

2440
01:51:53,850 --> 01:51:50,770
cow or calf you know during calving but

2441
01:51:56,040 --> 01:51:53,860
as long as they have as a minerals and

2442
01:51:58,169 --> 01:51:56,050
as long as they have a half-decent a and

2443
01:52:01,050 --> 01:51:58,179
even for beef cattle you know the breeds

2444
01:52:04,109 --> 01:52:01,060
we got the Limousin you know they don't

2445
01:52:09,839 --> 01:52:04,119
have to be any don't have to have any

2446
01:52:13,589 --> 01:52:09,849
fancy fancy hey you know they basically

2447
01:52:16,919 --> 01:52:13,599
they can stay in a good shape or

2448
01:52:18,350 --> 01:52:16,929
hey that's not top quality you know well

2449
01:52:20,910 --> 01:52:18,360
here's another question from Conrad

2450
01:52:23,580 --> 01:52:20,920
since you've been such a thorn in the

2451
01:52:24,810 --> 01:52:23,590
side of the authorities about this and

2452
01:52:27,270 --> 01:52:24,820
they've they've gone ahead and they

2453
01:52:29,040 --> 01:52:27,280
pushed back against you what medical

2454
01:52:30,750 --> 01:52:29,050
conditions have the authorities accused

2455
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:30,760
you of neglecting in your cattle

2456
01:52:34,589 --> 01:52:32,650
what if they accuse you of just not

2457
01:52:37,470 --> 01:52:34,599
feeding them enough or what is there

2458
01:52:39,810 --> 01:52:37,480
what is there what are their charges

2459
01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:39,820
against you as a farm like anything else

2460
01:52:46,109 --> 01:52:43,449
fly so is a lot this one here now when

2461
01:52:49,109 --> 01:52:46,119
they dragged me into court after 37

2462
01:52:51,169 --> 01:52:49,119
years you know they came up with oh I

2463
01:52:54,689 --> 01:52:51,179
didn't provide them with a pop of water

2464
01:52:57,899 --> 01:52:54,699
with enough water adequate water access

2465
01:53:02,160 --> 01:52:57,909
to water and I did not provide them with

2466
01:53:06,570 --> 01:53:02,170
adequate feet you know and I didn't use

2467
01:53:10,229 --> 01:53:06,580
any veterinary assistance since 2009

2468
01:53:12,689 --> 01:53:10,239
no even got to water there's only 80

2469
01:53:16,109 --> 01:53:12,699
yards further down there is a running

2470
01:53:19,770 --> 01:53:16,119
book I put a glitch in you know causing

2471
01:53:22,229 --> 01:53:19,780
in there that the cattle drink I slope

2472
01:53:23,850 --> 01:53:22,239
the banks then I put sandstone in the

2473
01:53:25,500 --> 01:53:23,860
bottom so they don't muck it up and they

2474
01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:25,510
drink it right as it comes out of the

2475
01:53:32,939 --> 01:53:28,690
pipe from the causing then in the winter

2476
01:53:34,770 --> 01:53:32,949
when the snow has been deep my water

2477
01:53:36,899 --> 01:53:34,780
line I get get the water

2478
01:53:40,709 --> 01:53:36,909
gravity paid to perform the from the

2479
01:53:44,370 --> 01:53:40,719
hillside and it goes right by below the

2480
01:53:48,720 --> 01:53:44,380
barn like by the bond and I tap into the

2481
01:53:52,020 --> 01:53:48,730
water line and I get the bass that there

2482
01:53:54,359 --> 01:53:52,030
there I steady let enough water running

2483
01:53:56,459 --> 01:53:54,369
so the best that was always half full

2484
01:53:58,320 --> 01:53:56,469
okay the long and short of it is because

2485
01:53:58,740 --> 01:53:58,330
we can go into this for another two

2486
01:54:00,870 --> 01:53:58,750
hours

2487
01:54:02,820 --> 01:54:00,880
Vernor the long and short of it is you

2488
01:54:04,919 --> 01:54:02,830
feel you've taken care of your camel

2489
01:54:07,020 --> 01:54:04,929
properly that you're getting a bum rap

2490
01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:07,030
from the authorities that's basically

2491
01:54:13,310 --> 01:54:08,770
what it is but you know they got two

2492
01:54:16,439 --> 01:54:13,320
feet last spring the veterinarian they

2493
01:54:18,450 --> 01:54:16,449
didn't hold the local better district

2494
01:54:20,370 --> 01:54:18,460
with a 9n because he had been covering

2495
01:54:23,399 --> 01:54:20,380
things up now for many years and he

2496
01:54:26,189 --> 01:54:23,409
saying haunch and the last time I tried

2497
01:54:26,910 --> 01:54:26,199
to explain that to him about six years

2498
01:54:29,700 --> 01:54:26,920
ago

2499
01:54:30,630 --> 01:54:29,710
he said we are not trained on it and

2500
01:54:33,630 --> 01:54:30,640
they say you're saying now the

2501
01:54:35,450 --> 01:54:33,640
veterinarian was hiding information

2502
01:54:39,450 --> 01:54:35,460
hiding things not doing his job

2503
01:54:41,550 --> 01:54:39,460
basically the buck starts up with a

2504
01:54:43,290 --> 01:54:41,560
veterinarian you can lead a horse to

2505
01:54:45,150 --> 01:54:43,300
water but you can't make it drink and

2506
01:54:47,820 --> 01:54:45,160
when this veterinary said we are not

2507
01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:47,830
trained on it even so the animals and

2508
01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:51,250
direct physical burns deep tissue burns

2509
01:54:56,280 --> 01:54:53,890
and everything all the other stuff was

2510
01:54:57,780 --> 01:54:56,290
being documented when he did some auto

2511
01:55:00,209 --> 01:54:57,790
feeds and he said to me we are not

2512
01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:00,219
trained on it I said pardon me this

2513
01:55:03,660 --> 01:55:01,810
technology has been on for half a

2514
01:55:05,880 --> 01:55:03,670
century we all have to take some

2515
01:55:08,070 --> 01:55:05,890
upgrading you know so do you

2516
01:55:11,130 --> 01:55:08,080
burner it seems to me that it would be

2517
01:55:14,490 --> 01:55:11,140
very easy to ascertain and prove that a

2518
01:55:16,470 --> 01:55:14,500
particular wound caused by high heat was

2519
01:55:18,870 --> 01:55:16,480
real you know it would seem to me they

2520
01:55:21,300 --> 01:55:18,880
just taking off that patch patch of

2521
01:55:23,310 --> 01:55:21,310
flesh from the nose for instance putting

2522
01:55:25,650 --> 01:55:23,320
it into formalin and having it

2523
01:55:27,959 --> 01:55:25,660
independently tested without any sort of

2524
01:55:30,060 --> 01:55:27,969
front-loading to a veterinary pathology

2525
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:30,070
lab that you would be able to determine

2526
01:55:35,189 --> 01:55:33,130
cause of the heat it would be an

2527
01:55:37,320 --> 01:55:35,199
exception but you would be able to prove

2528
01:55:39,300 --> 01:55:37,330
that that high heat was used you know

2529
01:55:43,220 --> 01:55:39,310
some sort of lazy an instrument or maser

2530
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:43,230
as possibly or a particle beam type

2531
01:55:50,130 --> 01:55:45,850
directed-energy not all you have to do

2532
01:55:52,470 --> 01:55:50,140
is is take that patch of flesh put it in

2533
01:55:54,390 --> 01:55:52,480
formalin and send it off to a lab with

2534
01:55:57,300 --> 01:55:54,400
no explanation just say you don't give

2535
01:56:00,900 --> 01:55:57,310
me an analysis of this have you tried to

2536
01:56:02,580 --> 01:56:00,910
do that look I used try to use some

2537
01:56:05,490 --> 01:56:02,590
other labs as I say but that first

2538
01:56:08,160 --> 01:56:05,500
happened in 1975 I took the rest of the

2539
01:56:13,620 --> 01:56:08,170
stomach and took it to a lab in sac real

2540
01:56:15,689 --> 01:56:13,630
you know and nothing they all stick

2541
01:56:18,290 --> 01:56:15,699
together birds of a feather stick

2542
01:56:22,350 --> 01:56:18,300
together out here so they're basically

2543
01:56:24,479 --> 01:56:22,360
conspiring to hide the truth basically

2544
01:56:26,760 --> 01:56:24,489
there's no saying Maritimers stick

2545
01:56:28,890 --> 01:56:26,770
together and in many instances people

2546
01:56:31,530 --> 01:56:28,900
were willing to do the right thing and

2547
01:56:33,540 --> 01:56:31,540
even when I was right there they would

2548
01:56:35,010 --> 01:56:33,550
get a phone call and they would look all

2549
01:56:37,620 --> 01:56:35,020
scared and then they wouldn't do

2550
01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:37,630
anything and I want to very regress

2551
01:56:42,090 --> 01:56:40,210
again when about five years ago the

2552
01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:42,100
inspect them when she sent the captive

2553
01:56:47,370 --> 01:56:44,050
furiten when I followed it up three days

2554
01:56:49,170 --> 01:56:47,380
later I was being told that that they

2555
01:56:51,959 --> 01:56:49,180
got a phone call from the SPCA to

2556
01:56:56,160 --> 01:56:51,969
destroy the specimen important that it

2557
01:57:00,450 --> 01:56:56,170
wasn't what their mandate you know the

2558
01:57:03,300 --> 01:57:00,460
specimen was still my property so there

2559
01:57:04,740 --> 01:57:03,310
are many veterinary pathologies labs and

2560
01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:04,750
and veterinary pathologists out there

2561
01:57:08,580 --> 01:57:06,250
now you mentioned you spoke with George

2562
01:57:10,470 --> 01:57:08,590
o-net who used to do the lab work for

2563
01:57:14,190 --> 01:57:10,480
the National Institute of Discovery

2564
01:57:17,310 --> 01:57:14,200
Sciences why can't you go ahead and send

2565
01:57:19,590 --> 01:57:17,320
him forensic samples and don't

2566
01:57:21,780 --> 01:57:19,600
front-load him but but send him some and

2567
01:57:24,240 --> 01:57:21,790
then send some to another lab and

2568
01:57:26,940 --> 01:57:24,250
compare compare the results will get

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01:57:34,680 --> 01:57:26,950
Vernors answer and a lot more with Gina

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ask.com

2668
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we have Verner buck Rancher farmer from

2669
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Canada asked a very critical question by

2670
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Chris O'Brien as part of these ongoing

2671
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incidents of livestock being tampered

2672
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with whatever what's your response why

2673
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didn't you send the samples over to the

2674
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place that Chris mentioned I different

2675
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different different times I sent labs to

2676
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centralize the lab but it's like you're

2677
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hitting a brick wall and what are you

2678
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saying that none of the labs want to pay

2679
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attention to what you have to say and

2680
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what you have to present look let me

2681
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continue about this James calls when he

2682
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said to me because the phone calls from

2683
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the SPCA can ruin one okay we understand

2684
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that that's the ultimate conspiracy

2685
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theory we understand that happens where

2686
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you go somewhere and you're trying to

2687
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get something done and they get the

2688
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mysterious phone call and they stop

2689
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doing it but Chris asked you a question

2690
02:03:00,180 --> 02:02:56,770
could you answer it please there is

2691
02:03:01,890 --> 02:03:00,190
another twist to it so on a hunch I hid

2692
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the telephone number of the chief

2693
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inspector from the SPCA I had it so I

2694
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phoned him up and I I said and he said

2695
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asking about who made that phone call

2696
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and he said I made the phone call I said

2697
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that was not up to you to make the phone

2698
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call it says what my property oh there's

2699
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nobody doing anything video cattle it's

2700
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all in your head okay the answer Chris

2701
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say why why stick to local Canadian

2702
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authorities why not go south of the

2703
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border without any sort of front-loading

2704
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and supply a veterinary pathologist with

2705
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samples don't tell him why you're

2706
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sending them just say I want you to test

2707
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this and come up with the results and

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send

2709
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the same you know cut the sample in half

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and send the other half to another lab

2711
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and then compare your results Vernor

2712
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this is 37 years you've lost 100 100

2713
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thousand dollars plus in cattle here

2714
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we're talking almost a quarter of a

2715
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million dollars it would definitely be

2716
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worth your while to spend the money to

2717
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have a diagnostic lab test a sample and

2718
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then the other half of the sample have a

2719
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tested at another diagnostic lab that's

2720
02:04:20,790 --> 02:04:18,760
how you do good science you don't let

2721
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them know who you are you don't let them

2722
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know why you're sending the sample you

2723
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just say here's a sample here's my money

2724
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let me see the results of this test of

2725
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these tests that you're gonna perform I

2726
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mean that to me would be the way to

2727
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handle this now you I found out about

2728
02:04:38,760 --> 02:04:37,030
you first from from Ted Olaf on who was

2729
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a law enforcement official down in five

2730
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Alabama who investigated almost 200

2731
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cattle mutilation cases in the late 80s

2732
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and early 90s he's known about your case

2733
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for quite some time have you ever asked

2734
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Ted for some help about where to get

2735
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samples tested have you supplied him

2736
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with any sort of forensic evidence

2737
02:05:00,660 --> 02:04:57,370
have you have you looked at all event is

2738
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only one of the many alleys I chase down

2739
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to come to some results and I don't

2740
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answer didn't I don't have the financial

2741
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resources and I thought okay okay hold

2742
02:05:13,890 --> 02:05:12,010
please you're saying then that you don't

2743
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have the resources to provide him with

2744
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evidence you don't have the resources to

2745
02:05:19,530 --> 02:05:18,969
provide evidence to sources south of the

2746
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border

2747
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so how do we verify any of this you can

2748
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complain to the end of time and we can't

2749
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verify any of what you claim you're

2750
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still losing money it would it would

2751
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seem to me it would be money well spent

2752
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to determine and prove that you are

2753
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being victimized by some sort of high

2754
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technology that would be that would be

2755
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my number one suggestion to you and and

2756
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I really think that you should do that

2757
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the next time you have a case take that

2758
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sample that skin sample and very

2759
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carefully gather it suspend it in

2760
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formalin and you know cut it in half and

2761
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send one to one lab and another to

2762
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another lab it's not that expensive

2763
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compared to hundreds of thousands of

2764
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dollars of lost livestock

2765
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you need some ammunition to approach

2766
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your local authorities and say here's

2767
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the results of tests I'm not crazy

2768
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the results prove out what I've been

2769
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saying or they don't this is a very

2770
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unusual case I must say I mean I've no I

2771
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want to ask you one question

2772
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I've seen the same damage documented

2773
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that has been done to people with the

2774
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very same technology what did the law

2775
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enforcement do about it well without

2776
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knowing the particulars I can't comment

2777
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you know people I came across there last

2778
02:06:42,629 --> 02:06:40,840
year there was a Darren doubt a young

2779
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father several years earlier he

2780
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documented it and he put it on YouTube

2781
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Torche of Christians in America and it

2782
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showed people this identical burns as

2783
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I've been documenting on the cattle in

2784
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one case there was a father he has a

2785
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shirt off and yet three circular burns

2786
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about an Internet in diameter on his

2787
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back okay so you're saying here Vernor

2788
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that these people were subject to the

2789
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same kind of shall we say abuse as your

2790
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channel tortured Christians in America

2791
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doesn't doubt and guess what right

2792
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afterwards he was found dead then there

2793
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is another one I came across and that

2794
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it's monarch project torture of innocent

2795
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men women and children and animals again

2796
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same documentation on people you know

2797
02:07:40,469 --> 02:07:38,739
Verner Verner you're kind of mixing

2798
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apples and oranges here I would think

2799
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that you'd want to concentrate on

2800
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getting verification scientific evidence

2801
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that verifies what you suspect is going

2802
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on with your cattle

2803
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then you can use that with those test

2804
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results as ammunition to then bring to

2805
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the authorities and demand some sort of

2806
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investigation obviously these people are

2807
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taken you see Verner these people aren't

2808
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taking you seriously because you don't

2809
02:08:13,890 --> 02:08:10,059
have the proper scientific evidence to

2810
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back up your claims listen I have been

2811
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in contact with so many scientists

2812
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and I'm greatly dismayed when I see the

2813
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PhD you know by a name I become already

2814
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leery okay so you're saying that the

2815
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scientists with whom you've been in

2816
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touch refused to help you they won't

2817
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take you seriously when they you know

2818
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the ones I encountered at the

2819
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universities and so on you know when I

2820
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encountered them when they get enough

2821
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pressures and suddenly they don't want

2822
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to have anything to do with it they take

2823
02:08:55,230 --> 02:08:50,140
off running okay okay you think they're

2824
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being pressured by someone to what I'd

2825
02:09:00,150 --> 02:08:57,220
found out within a few years after I

2826
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came here within a few years I found out

2827
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it wasn't what we were being told that's

2828
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the farmland had been abandoned because

2829
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people were lazy

2830
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but what I found out within a few years

2831
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that it was because vegetation control

2832
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chemicals and all kinds of agricultural

2833
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chemicals they're being dumped on the

2834
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farm land under Agent Orange and so why

2835
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was a notice in order to get the farmers

2836
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off the land and what will they do with

2837
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the land when they get the farmers off

2838
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but the other question is here it looks

2839
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to me like it's only happening on your

2840
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farmland not only on my farm but I was

2841
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very well aware about the technologies

2842
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because I think using some of those

2843
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chemicals already in the old country and

2844
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but we came over from the old country

2845
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and we wanted to be self-sufficient we

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wanted to go our own feed train and then

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grind and mix our own own livestock feed

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you know and within a few years I found

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out whenever I ate of grain planted and

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it was coming up then a small plane

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would show up make a few passes over the

2852
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fields and within a few days the the cup

2853
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would die right off we have Verner brach

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go with Jean and Chris you're in the

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2930
02:13:50,380 --> 02:13:48,350
toxicity and brain damage so whether it

2931
02:13:51,820 --> 02:13:50,390
is poor memory for focus lack of

2932
02:13:53,920 --> 02:13:51,830
creative thinking or more serious

2933
02:13:55,990 --> 02:13:53,930
matters like inability to focus speak

2934
02:13:57,370 --> 02:13:56,000
normally or remember things the emphasis

2935
02:14:00,190 --> 02:13:57,380
to getting one's brain working optimally

2936
02:14:01,750 --> 02:14:00,200
needs to be on detoxification OneWorld

2937
02:14:03,670 --> 02:14:01,760
ways support your body's number-one

2938
02:14:05,860 --> 02:14:03,680
means of detoxification which is

2939
02:14:07,750 --> 02:14:05,870
glutathione production my name is angie

2940
02:14:10,720 --> 02:14:07,760
and my son has suffered some borderline

2941
02:14:12,550 --> 02:14:10,730
autism and constipation i got him on one

2942
02:14:14,590 --> 02:14:12,560
more way and in two months if

2943
02:14:16,170 --> 02:14:14,600
constipation is gone it's become

2944
02:14:18,340 --> 02:14:16,180
friendlier he can carry on a normal

2945
02:14:20,950 --> 02:14:18,350
conversation with me and he has made it

2946
02:14:22,420 --> 02:14:20,960
first friend he's doing great and he

2947
02:14:24,899 --> 02:14:22,430
looks forward to picking one roadway

2948
02:14:27,689 --> 02:14:24,909
every day you could offer him a

2949
02:14:30,959 --> 02:14:27,699
or cake and he would prefer the one real

2950
02:14:33,870 --> 02:14:30,969
way go to one world wacom that's one

2951
02:14:35,669 --> 02:14:33,880
world wh ey dot-com or call eight eight

2952
02:14:37,260 --> 02:14:35,679
eight nine eight eight three three to

2953
02:14:41,250 --> 02:14:37,270
five that's eight eight eight nine eight

2954
02:14:43,680 --> 02:14:41,260
eight three three to five hello this is

2955
02:14:46,290 --> 02:14:43,690
John burrows one of the witnesses to the

2956
02:14:48,479 --> 02:14:46,300
Rendlesham UFO incident you're listening

2957
02:14:56,790 --> 02:14:48,489
to the podcast the gold standard of a

2958
02:15:01,600 --> 02:14:59,590
now I'm getting a picture here which is

2959
02:15:01,990 --> 02:15:01,610
questionable and I want to understand it

2960
02:15:04,180 --> 02:15:02,000
further

2961
02:15:06,550 --> 02:15:04,190
Vernor Bock and that is when you move

2962
02:15:07,900 --> 02:15:06,560
from Germany because they didn't treat

2963
02:15:10,450 --> 02:15:07,910
your right they were taking your land

2964
02:15:13,210 --> 02:15:10,460
away they wouldn't I knew the lease is

2965
02:15:16,900 --> 02:15:13,220
whatever okay we understand that did any

2966
02:15:19,120 --> 02:15:16,910
of this happen to you in Germany or is

2967
02:15:21,190 --> 02:15:19,130
it unique to your current environment I

2968
02:15:24,400 --> 02:15:21,200
never noticed anything like that in

2969
02:15:27,970 --> 02:15:24,410
Germany because especially after the war

2970
02:15:29,740 --> 02:15:27,980
and so the farmers were needed okay so

2971
02:15:31,270 --> 02:15:29,750
in Germany they didn't do anything but

2972
02:15:33,270 --> 02:15:31,280
take the land away when they needed it

2973
02:15:35,680 --> 02:15:33,280
for something else

2974
02:15:37,510 --> 02:15:35,690
right across the border in the in the

2975
02:15:39,640 --> 02:15:37,520
Communist Party you know they took the

2976
02:15:41,590 --> 02:15:39,650
land away and put them in the in the in

2977
02:15:43,600 --> 02:15:41,600
the collective eyes in the collective

2978
02:15:47,800 --> 02:15:43,610
farms okay but what about in West

2979
02:15:49,810 --> 02:15:47,810
Germany before right after after the war

2980
02:15:52,090 --> 02:15:49,820
in the right through the mid 50s and so

2981
02:15:54,310 --> 02:15:52,100
they wanted the farmers there for the

2982
02:15:56,020 --> 02:15:54,320
people to have enough to eat and when

2983
02:15:57,610 --> 02:15:56,030
people don't have enough to eat and send

2984
02:15:59,260 --> 02:15:57,620
in long food lines like they've been

2985
02:16:01,480 --> 02:15:59,270
doing India if and European countries

2986
02:16:03,760 --> 02:16:01,490
during that time they cannot work they

2987
02:16:07,150 --> 02:16:03,770
cannot be employed productively you know

2988
02:16:10,180 --> 02:16:07,160
and this is what caused the economic

2989
02:16:12,550 --> 02:16:10,190
miracle after the war because the farmer

2990
02:16:14,650 --> 02:16:12,560
severe for using you know give people

2991
02:16:17,320 --> 02:16:14,660
enough to eat you know and then people

2992
02:16:19,300 --> 02:16:17,330
could work that energy to work the

2993
02:16:21,100 --> 02:16:19,310
opposite to the Communists to the

2994
02:16:23,530 --> 02:16:21,110
communist system all right you know

2995
02:16:25,570 --> 02:16:23,540
Chris has a bunch more questions to ask

2996
02:16:28,510 --> 02:16:25,580
including some from our listeners Chris

2997
02:16:30,670 --> 02:16:28,520
yeah here's another question from Paul

2998
02:16:33,250 --> 02:16:30,680
to worst in the documentary you

2999
02:16:37,060 --> 02:16:33,260
mentioned that one of the cows seems to

3000
02:16:39,100 --> 02:16:37,070
have fallen from a some height and and

3001
02:16:41,911 --> 02:16:39,110
then it landed on the ground you know

3002
02:16:44,500 --> 02:16:41,921
and impacted the ground adversely to

3003
02:16:46,900 --> 02:16:44,510
obviously if it's dropped from a height

3004
02:16:48,340 --> 02:16:46,910
now was that a unique case or did you

3005
02:16:51,460 --> 02:16:48,350
have other animals that you felt were

3006
02:16:53,831 --> 02:16:51,470
lifted up and then only only only case I

3007
02:16:56,770 --> 02:16:53,841
encountered this was a few years ago and

3008
02:16:58,300 --> 02:16:56,780
at the time we make quite a few youtube

3009
02:17:01,240 --> 02:16:58,310
say but the father stay near the farm

3010
02:17:03,280 --> 02:17:01,250
and yet they a camera and you put it on

3011
02:17:05,291 --> 02:17:03,290
YouTube but most of the YouTube's we

3012
02:17:08,530 --> 02:17:05,301
made at that time they are gone off the

3013
02:17:09,669 --> 02:17:08,540
internet well how did you know what led

3014
02:17:12,370 --> 02:17:09,679
you to believe the

3015
02:17:16,030 --> 02:17:12,380
have been dropped from a high she had

3016
02:17:17,620 --> 02:17:16,040
and then the year previously on two

3017
02:17:18,969 --> 02:17:17,630
occasions during the night one time

3018
02:17:20,740 --> 02:17:18,979
between one and two o'clock at night

3019
02:17:21,969 --> 02:17:20,750
I've been checking on the cattle and I

3020
02:17:23,950 --> 02:17:21,979
was walking across the yard and I

3021
02:17:26,950 --> 02:17:23,960
happened to look back to to the rich

3022
02:17:29,349 --> 02:17:26,960
just over a shallow you know a low which

3023
02:17:31,839 --> 02:17:29,359
that's overlooking the area and I saw

3024
02:17:34,030 --> 02:17:31,849
the distinct downturn Searchlight of the

3025
02:17:36,009 --> 02:17:34,040
helicopter within a quarter of a mile

3026
02:17:38,229 --> 02:17:36,019
coming out between two tall pine trees

3027
02:17:40,030 --> 02:17:38,239
and there was no sound coming from there

3028
02:17:41,410 --> 02:17:40,040
well how did you know that the one

3029
02:17:43,120 --> 02:17:41,420
animal had been dropped from a height

3030
02:17:44,910 --> 02:17:43,130
what led you to believe that what

3031
02:17:48,339 --> 02:17:44,920
condition was the animal in as I

3032
02:17:49,929 --> 02:17:48,349
described it in there let me say then at

3033
02:17:52,179 --> 02:17:49,939
another time between nine and ten

3034
02:17:53,830 --> 02:17:52,189
o'clock at night it was dark and I was

3035
02:17:57,000 --> 02:17:53,840
walking across the yard and I happened

3036
02:18:00,610 --> 02:17:57,010
to look up I'm in the flight path of the

3037
02:18:02,259 --> 02:18:00,620
overseas flight you know I watch you

3038
02:18:03,700 --> 02:18:02,269
know then sometimes when I walk across a

3039
02:18:04,150 --> 02:18:03,710
yacht you know how many jet planes are

3040
02:18:06,219 --> 02:18:04,160
in the sky

3041
02:18:07,809 --> 02:18:06,229
and then there's another flight path of

3042
02:18:09,639 --> 02:18:07,819
a flight school between Moncton

3043
02:18:11,610 --> 02:18:09,649
infinitum they commute back and forth

3044
02:18:13,509 --> 02:18:11,620
sometimes you have four or five

3045
02:18:15,429 --> 02:18:13,519
single-engine planes right there

3046
02:18:19,379 --> 02:18:15,439
but anyway I have to look right overhead

3047
02:18:22,599 --> 02:18:19,389
and I saw the distinct downturn the

3048
02:18:25,809 --> 02:18:22,609
searchlight of a helicopter directly

3049
02:18:30,400 --> 02:18:25,819
over the farmyard making a real sharp

3050
02:18:33,429 --> 02:18:30,410
turn the turn normal plane could make

3051
02:18:34,900 --> 02:18:33,439
and again there was no sound

3052
02:18:37,479 --> 02:18:34,910
wait a minute here we're talking about a

3053
02:18:38,439 --> 02:18:37,489
helicopter that makes this sound wait a

3054
02:18:40,179 --> 02:18:38,449
minute wait a minute please

3055
02:18:43,330 --> 02:18:40,189
we're talking about a helicopter that

3056
02:18:44,620 --> 02:18:43,340
makes no sound that make sharp turns it

3057
02:18:48,759 --> 02:18:44,630
sounds like we're talking about a UFO

3058
02:18:52,089 --> 02:18:48,769
now a helicopter not us helicopter the

3059
02:18:55,929 --> 02:18:52,099
the searchlight goes down it is like a

3060
02:18:57,729 --> 02:18:55,939
50 degree you know well in me burner if

3061
02:18:59,410 --> 02:18:57,739
I had seen a helicopter low over my

3062
02:19:02,110 --> 02:18:59,420
ranch and I was having these cattle

3063
02:19:04,120 --> 02:19:02,120
these unexplained cattle deaths well I

3064
02:19:06,790 --> 02:19:04,130
would have whipped out my 30.6 and tried

3065
02:19:09,729 --> 02:19:06,800
to bring that sucker down I don't have a

3066
02:19:12,849 --> 02:19:09,739
3006 I don't have a gun but before I

3067
02:19:16,000 --> 02:19:12,859
look for extraterrestrial explanation I

3068
02:19:17,740 --> 02:19:16,010
look what's on the ground well you never

3069
02:19:19,599 --> 02:19:17,750
did answer my question how did you

3070
02:19:22,269 --> 02:19:19,609
determine that the animal had been

3071
02:19:23,320 --> 02:19:22,279
dropped from a height I want to explain

3072
02:19:25,780 --> 02:19:23,330
to you

3073
02:19:28,320 --> 02:19:25,790
real easy silent and a couple spendi and

3074
02:19:31,089 --> 02:19:28,330
the injury sea animal head okay

3075
02:19:31,809 --> 02:19:31,099
helicopters what silent helicopter we

3076
02:19:34,629 --> 02:19:31,819
talking about

3077
02:19:37,929 --> 02:19:34,639
I spoke to a former military pilot who

3078
02:19:39,820 --> 02:19:37,939
is now my Senator Joe day and he

3079
02:19:43,209 --> 02:19:39,830
confirmed to me he said yeah they got

3080
02:19:45,639 --> 02:19:43,219
the technology where they can cancel out

3081
02:19:47,290 --> 02:19:45,649
the found on the helicopters well I've

3082
02:19:50,710 --> 02:19:47,300
actually seen that with my own eyes and

3083
02:19:53,559 --> 02:19:50,720
and not heard it with my ears so they do

3084
02:19:56,650 --> 02:19:53,569
have noise cancellation technology but

3085
02:19:58,510 --> 02:19:56,660
but again Verner described the condition

3086
02:20:01,000 --> 02:19:58,520
of the animal that you felt was dropped

3087
02:20:03,760 --> 02:20:01,010
from a height this was on the weekend

3088
02:20:06,370 --> 02:20:03,770
and generally most of the dirty DJ baddo

3089
02:20:09,070 --> 02:20:06,380
non on the weekend you know starting up

3090
02:20:10,540 --> 02:20:09,080
from Friday night so on Saturday morning

3091
02:20:13,150 --> 02:20:10,550
I was coming out and the cattle they

3092
02:20:14,740 --> 02:20:13,160
were overnight they'd stayed here right

3093
02:20:16,510 --> 02:20:14,750
across from the yard from the house in

3094
02:20:19,240 --> 02:20:16,520
the in this idea that they were bedded

3095
02:20:21,900 --> 02:20:19,250
down and when I came there to defeat

3096
02:20:26,349 --> 02:20:21,910
them this call was raised there behind

3097
02:20:28,330 --> 02:20:26,359
wolf was partly ripped off there's a 11

3098
02:20:31,150 --> 02:20:28,340
or 12 inch Longhorn was fully rammed

3099
02:20:34,750 --> 02:20:31,160
into the ground there were no major

3100
02:20:36,969 --> 02:20:34,760
disturbances on the ground and blood was

3101
02:20:39,280 --> 02:20:36,979
coming out of the hind end who is not

3102
02:20:41,200 --> 02:20:39,290
out of the hind end and foam and bloody

3103
02:20:44,139 --> 02:20:41,210
foam was coming out of the mouth and she

3104
02:20:46,900 --> 02:20:44,149
naturally was dead did you do any cough

3105
02:20:49,809 --> 02:20:46,910
see I didn't have to do a knee cop see I

3106
02:20:52,360 --> 02:20:49,819
didn't have to do any cop see because

3107
02:20:55,360 --> 02:20:52,370
the injuries the animal hit what I

3108
02:20:57,880 --> 02:20:55,370
figured they hoisted that you know put

3109
02:21:00,429 --> 02:20:57,890
the cable onto roof but an accident

3110
02:21:02,920 --> 02:21:00,439
happened the cables flipped and it

3111
02:21:05,290 --> 02:21:02,930
ripped part of the wolf you know let the

3112
02:21:07,240 --> 02:21:05,300
tariff off and she know you're talking

3113
02:21:09,360 --> 02:21:07,250
about abduction of cattle how many

3114
02:21:12,580 --> 02:21:09,370
cattle have you gone out and found

3115
02:21:15,490 --> 02:21:12,590
stolen or or or gone this was the only

3116
02:21:19,179 --> 02:21:15,500
call I found in this kind of a way but

3117
02:21:21,969 --> 02:21:19,189
sometimes doing sasame a few times one

3118
02:21:24,309 --> 02:21:21,979
or two like a four or 500 pound calf

3119
02:21:27,280 --> 02:21:24,319
they disappeared out of the pasture and

3120
02:21:29,950 --> 02:21:27,290
generally like the cats by themselves

3121
02:21:32,410 --> 02:21:29,960
they don't take off the hurt they stick

3122
02:21:35,440 --> 02:21:32,420
stick together it's a whole family unit

3123
02:21:37,090 --> 02:21:35,450
how many animals have have mysteriously

3124
02:21:39,580 --> 02:21:37,100
just disappeared like that

3125
02:21:42,370 --> 02:21:39,590
not like that but as I say there have

3126
02:21:44,850 --> 02:21:42,380
been at least five or six animals over

3127
02:21:47,560 --> 02:21:44,860
the years that have disappeared okay

3128
02:21:50,040 --> 02:21:47,570
well I still think Vernor that you

3129
02:21:52,900 --> 02:21:50,050
should you should do a double bind test

3130
02:21:56,080 --> 02:21:52,910
forensic sample testing with two labs

3131
02:21:58,470 --> 02:21:56,090
that receive samples not from you but

3132
02:22:02,620 --> 02:21:58,480
from somebody else have one of your

3133
02:22:06,730 --> 02:22:02,630
relatives or rancher friends go ahead

3134
02:22:09,160 --> 02:22:06,740
and send off samples in Portland so that

3135
02:22:11,460 --> 02:22:09,170
you are not you are not in any way tied

3136
02:22:14,740 --> 02:22:11,470
to the samples in the eyes of the

3137
02:22:17,080 --> 02:22:14,750
pathology lab that would be my advice to

3138
02:22:20,261 --> 02:22:17,090
you is you need to have some ammunition

3139
02:22:22,990 --> 02:22:20,271
to prove or disprove that your theories

3140
02:22:24,190 --> 02:22:23,000
are correct because anything less than

3141
02:22:25,750 --> 02:22:24,200
that you're just going to be spinning

3142
02:22:26,370 --> 02:22:25,760
your wheels and losing your your

3143
02:22:29,470 --> 02:22:26,380
livestock

3144
02:22:33,040 --> 02:22:29,480
you know when you think it's silly I

3145
02:22:34,511 --> 02:22:33,050
want to tell you I don't think the rest

3146
02:22:38,110 --> 02:22:34,521
of the most of the rest of the

3147
02:22:41,230 --> 02:22:38,120
population they have to live it as much

3148
02:22:43,030 --> 02:22:41,240
in reality as as pharmacist when I

3149
02:22:46,060 --> 02:22:43,040
started farming

3150
02:22:49,390 --> 02:22:46,070
Britany assists over 15 years ago you

3151
02:22:54,390 --> 02:22:49,400
know where it's 50 years ago they were

3152
02:22:59,080 --> 02:22:54,400
20 farmers yes maybe no one farmer left

3153
02:23:01,720 --> 02:22:59,090
you know and as I say whatever tasks I

3154
02:23:04,660 --> 02:23:01,730
have to confront I have to deal with the

3155
02:23:07,590 --> 02:23:04,670
means I have financial means and so and

3156
02:23:12,011 --> 02:23:07,600
work wise and everything you know and

3157
02:23:15,490 --> 02:23:12,021
when the community think those things

3158
02:23:18,880 --> 02:23:15,500
can keep on going they have to face the

3159
02:23:21,730 --> 02:23:18,890
consequences and I want to say something

3160
02:23:24,070 --> 02:23:21,740
else what I when you asked about the

3161
02:23:26,680 --> 02:23:24,080
question why do is it good the farmers I

3162
02:23:30,610 --> 02:23:26,690
went to business college - I went to

3163
02:23:33,370 --> 02:23:30,620
agriculture college and if you if is a

3164
02:23:36,370 --> 02:23:33,380
farmer I want to stay in business I have

3165
02:23:38,920 --> 02:23:36,380
to do some pretty sharp figuring because

3166
02:23:44,170 --> 02:23:38,930
there is no tax payer and no daddy in

3167
02:23:47,230 --> 02:23:44,180
the sky bailed me out you know and what

3168
02:23:49,570 --> 02:23:47,240
did I want to say well it just seems to

3169
02:23:50,620 --> 02:23:49,580
me that you need some some evidence to

3170
02:23:52,809 --> 02:23:50,630
back up your claim

3171
02:23:55,359 --> 02:23:52,819
so that you'll be taken seriously and if

3172
02:23:58,090 --> 02:23:55,369
you need help locating a pathology lab

3173
02:24:00,639 --> 02:23:58,100
you should let me know and I can refer

3174
02:24:03,370 --> 02:24:00,649
you on to some labs and we won't even

3175
02:24:07,870 --> 02:24:03,380
tell them that the samples are coming

3176
02:24:09,849 --> 02:24:07,880
from you - - you know hopefully so what

3177
02:24:12,189 --> 02:24:09,859
I tell you ladies and gentlemen this is

3178
02:24:14,170 --> 02:24:12,199
obviously a very very complicated story

3179
02:24:16,030 --> 02:24:14,180
and we hope to have a little bit more

3180
02:24:18,010 --> 02:24:16,040
clarification in our next segment

3181
02:24:20,080 --> 02:24:18,020
Vernor bock joining us he'll have an

3182
02:24:22,210 --> 02:24:20,090
answer to Chris's comment and request

3183
02:24:31,450 --> 02:24:22,220
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3211
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3212
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my fake TV near a window and know that

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think someone is not watching TV when

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3220
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light on a timer and they're so easy to

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use you just plug them in and they're

3222
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ready to go plus they're so affordable

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02:26:20,761 --> 02:26:17,650
that we have one upstairs and downstairs

3224
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3225
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3230
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how did we ever survive from natural

3231
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disasters like hurricane sandy and the

3232
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devastating summer droughts to the

3233
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family hardships brought on by a

3234
02:26:54,331 --> 02:26:52,511
disastrous economy our hearts go out to

3235
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those that lost everything

3236
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Eddie Foods direct we hear from

3237
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customers every day that are fortunate

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enough to weather life's storm by having

3239
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a supply of food on hand after Hurricane

3240
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sandy Danny from New York City wrote

3241
02:27:08,371 --> 02:27:06,251
almost all the grocery stores are closed

3242
02:27:10,770 --> 02:27:08,381
but I managed to get my eat foods just

3243
02:27:11,281 --> 02:27:10,780
in time to be able to help my sister and

3244
02:27:13,350 --> 02:27:11,291
niece

3245
02:27:15,690 --> 02:27:13,360
it is better to be prepared ten years

3246
02:27:17,881 --> 02:27:15,700
too early than one day too late I can

3247
02:27:20,270 --> 02:27:17,891
warn you but I can't feed you heed the

3248
02:27:24,060 --> 02:27:20,280
warnings and do what Alex is done call

3249
02:27:26,461 --> 02:27:24,070
849 five six 33 today or go to eat foods

3250
02:27:28,470 --> 02:27:26,471
direct comm slash Alex and build your

3251
02:27:30,810 --> 02:27:28,480
food supply it's the best tasting

3252
02:27:35,011 --> 02:27:30,820
non-gmo long term storable food on the

3253
02:27:37,621 --> 02:27:35,021
planet call 849 five six 33 or eat foods

3254
02:27:40,440 --> 02:27:37,631
direct comm slash Alex you can bet your

3255
02:27:42,270 --> 02:27:40,450
life on a foods direct there's a guy

3256
02:27:44,131 --> 02:27:42,280
named dr. Wallach who is anything but

3257
02:27:46,411 --> 02:27:44,141
your typical doctor both a veterinarian

3258
02:27:48,001 --> 02:27:46,421
and a naturopathic physician doc asks

3259
02:27:51,001 --> 02:27:48,011
why is this country spending more money

3260
02:27:52,890 --> 02:27:51,011
on health care by far and ranking 50th

3261
02:27:54,091 --> 02:27:52,900
in health and longevity worldwide doc

3262
02:27:55,921 --> 02:27:54,101
believes that people should empower

3263
02:27:57,451 --> 02:27:55,931
themselves with a basic understanding of

3264
02:27:59,281 --> 02:27:57,461
nutrition taking charge of their life

3265
02:28:01,650 --> 02:27:59,291
and obtaining optimal health and

3266
02:28:03,121 --> 02:28:01,660
longevity through nutrition not by toxic

3267
02:28:04,801 --> 02:28:03,131
pharmaceutical drugs that lead to side

3268
02:28:06,841 --> 02:28:04,811
effects that require more expensive and

3269
02:28:08,461 --> 02:28:06,851
toxic pharmaceutical drugs talk about

3270
02:28:11,041 --> 02:28:08,471
being dependent on drug companies to our

3271
02:28:13,020 --> 02:28:11,051
own destruction no less this is clearly

3272
02:28:14,430 --> 02:28:13,030
a deadly recipe doc walks message is

3273
02:28:16,171 --> 02:28:14,440
resonating with an increasing number of

3274
02:28:17,761 --> 02:28:16,181
Americans who are waking up to all the

3275
02:28:19,501 --> 02:28:17,771
government and big pharma manipulation

3276
02:28:21,060 --> 02:28:19,511
of our health and health care system I

3277
02:28:22,560 --> 02:28:21,070
like what doc Wallach is saying and

3278
02:28:24,480 --> 02:28:22,570
doing to enlighten people about health

3279
02:28:26,011 --> 02:28:24,490
care and I've joined forces with him to

3280
02:28:28,411 --> 02:28:26,021
help this tireless crusader spread his

3281
02:28:30,091 --> 02:28:28,421
message visit bright side been calm and

3282
02:28:32,371 --> 02:28:30,101
listen to dr. Wallach steadly recipe

3283
02:28:33,871 --> 02:28:32,381
lectures it makes a lot of sense and I

3284
02:28:36,211 --> 02:28:33,881
invite you to join our bright side

3285
02:28:40,850 --> 02:28:36,221
Benteen go to bright side been calm

3286
02:28:45,230 --> 02:28:40,860
that's wlwt's I've been calm

3287
02:28:50,581 --> 02:28:48,270
this is the wrong flower cluster of the

3288
02:28:57,301 --> 02:28:50,591
Apollo cycle feed in other books you're

3289
02:28:58,890 --> 02:28:57,311
listening to the pure cap with gene and

3290
02:29:01,801 --> 02:28:58,900
Chris we continue with the power cast

3291
02:29:04,081 --> 02:29:01,811
our guests is farmer Verner Bach Chris

3292
02:29:05,371 --> 02:29:04,091
asked them a question about submitting

3293
02:29:08,701 --> 02:29:05,381
this stuff for analysis

3294
02:29:11,940 --> 02:29:08,711
Vernor look you don't know the maritime

3295
02:29:15,390 --> 02:29:11,950
community and especially over the lot

3296
02:29:18,270 --> 02:29:15,400
over the years they know every move I

3297
02:29:21,030 --> 02:29:18,280
make if I go to the post office or

3298
02:29:24,121 --> 02:29:21,040
courier comes in and picks up the sample

3299
02:29:26,131 --> 02:29:24,131
they know everything and they can

3300
02:29:28,350 --> 02:29:26,141
interfere they even interfere with mail

3301
02:29:31,440 --> 02:29:28,360
and anything you name it okay so you're

3302
02:29:33,780 --> 02:29:31,450
saying then if you ship this item to a

3303
02:29:35,461 --> 02:29:33,790
laboratory in the United States they

3304
02:29:37,530 --> 02:29:35,471
agrees to analyze it and Chris can

3305
02:29:40,890 --> 02:29:37,540
certainly find some possibilities for

3306
02:29:43,201 --> 02:29:40,900
that that that act you'd be seen and

3307
02:29:45,331 --> 02:29:43,211
that they'd prevent you from

3308
02:29:47,461 --> 02:29:45,341
accomplishing it would they intercept

3309
02:29:49,621 --> 02:29:47,471
the package what well there's ways

3310
02:29:52,860 --> 02:29:49,631
around that Vernor you could have a

3311
02:29:56,131 --> 02:29:52,870
friend take the formalin and bring it to

3312
02:29:57,780 --> 02:29:56,141
a city and have them send it to me and

3313
02:30:00,390 --> 02:29:57,790
then I can go ahead and have it sent to

3314
02:30:01,951 --> 02:30:00,400
the lab I mean there's ways around any

3315
02:30:06,270 --> 02:30:01,961
sort of monitoring that you think is

3316
02:30:10,140 --> 02:30:06,280
going on there I mean there was another

3317
02:30:12,240 --> 02:30:10,150
farmer there about 37 years ago they

3318
02:30:14,791 --> 02:30:12,250
went through similar things so they

3319
02:30:17,430 --> 02:30:14,801
finally had to sell the farm and I spoke

3320
02:30:20,011 --> 02:30:17,440
a year later to the farmer's wife and

3321
02:30:22,801 --> 02:30:20,021
she said at one time we thought we had

3322
02:30:27,030 --> 02:30:22,811
friend but when when the trouble started

3323
02:30:29,161 --> 02:30:27,040
up there were no more friends here well

3324
02:30:31,650 --> 02:30:29,171
I I know people up in your neck of the

3325
02:30:33,661 --> 02:30:31,660
woods I I do have some contacts up there

3326
02:30:37,230 --> 02:30:33,671
and I could get possibly get somebody to

3327
02:30:40,291 --> 02:30:37,240
do this for you but as I say I wanted to

3328
02:30:41,970 --> 02:30:40,301
finish up the other parts there over the

3329
02:30:44,251 --> 02:30:41,980
years I've been thinking that the way

3330
02:30:46,470 --> 02:30:44,261
agriculture has gone down down the tube

3331
02:30:48,030 --> 02:30:46,480
here in the meta and provinces and in

3332
02:30:51,961 --> 02:30:48,040
the northern New England states like

3333
02:30:53,820 --> 02:30:51,971
Maine the same pattern a region that at

3334
02:30:56,810 --> 02:30:53,830
one time was self-sufficient in food

3335
02:31:00,860 --> 02:30:56,820
production and that even was export

3336
02:31:04,600 --> 02:31:00,870
food you know now on the average they

3337
02:31:08,060 --> 02:31:04,610
are importing 90% of the food what they

3338
02:31:10,490 --> 02:31:08,070
easily could produce here and it would

3339
02:31:13,870 --> 02:31:10,500
give lots of people a job and it would

3340
02:31:16,970 --> 02:31:13,880
be a sustainable part of the economy and

3341
02:31:18,711 --> 02:31:16,980
we could produce healthy food for the

3342
02:31:21,921 --> 02:31:18,721
people here you know

3343
02:31:25,700 --> 02:31:21,931
no mod rental no big chemical

3344
02:31:27,381 --> 02:31:25,710
applications you know and it would take

3345
02:31:30,140 --> 02:31:27,391
quite the pressure of the healthcare

3346
02:31:31,940 --> 02:31:30,150
budget but I was thinking about the

3347
02:31:34,041 --> 02:31:31,950
region that's what self-sufficient at

3348
02:31:35,930 --> 02:31:34,051
that time a lot of the goods and

3349
02:31:38,360 --> 02:31:35,940
services were changing hands in the

3350
02:31:40,370 --> 02:31:38,370
barter system there was no money or very

3351
02:31:41,841 --> 02:31:40,380
little money in for big business there

3352
02:31:44,450 --> 02:31:41,851
was very little money in for big

3353
02:31:46,610 --> 02:31:44,460
government and if I would be one of

3354
02:31:49,910 --> 02:31:46,620
those big business tycoons I would

3355
02:31:52,280 --> 02:31:49,920
really try to destroy this local economy

3356
02:31:54,591 --> 02:31:52,290
and a region that at one time was

3357
02:31:56,650 --> 02:31:54,601
self-sufficient and their needs being

3358
02:32:00,110 --> 02:31:56,660
produced halfway around the world and

3359
02:32:01,791 --> 02:32:00,120
especially with slave labor or bite up

3360
02:32:05,660 --> 02:32:01,801
there for business because it's been

3361
02:32:07,671 --> 02:32:05,670
produced at a surplice ok burner we have

3362
02:32:09,830 --> 02:32:07,681
only a few minutes left I really don't

3363
02:32:11,900 --> 02:32:09,840
want to interrupt you but Chris has

3364
02:32:14,660 --> 02:32:11,910
asked you a question over and over again

3365
02:32:16,251 --> 02:32:14,670
about submitting this evidence and you

3366
02:32:18,410 --> 02:32:16,261
say well if you shipped it they'll see

3367
02:32:22,791 --> 02:32:18,420
it what about if you get in a car and

3368
02:32:25,490 --> 02:32:22,801
drive down here I don't have a car

3369
02:32:29,060 --> 02:32:25,500
anymore okay you don't drive you don't

3370
02:32:31,070 --> 02:32:29,070
have anybody you know I'm use across but

3371
02:32:33,200 --> 02:32:31,080
I've been financially so backed up

3372
02:32:33,830 --> 02:32:33,210
against the wall so you have no way to

3373
02:32:36,020 --> 02:32:33,840
travel

3374
02:32:37,791 --> 02:32:36,030
you can't take a cab you can't go to the

3375
02:32:41,240 --> 02:32:37,801
airport I get on the plane

3376
02:32:44,301 --> 02:32:41,250
I cannot drive to the states and go into

3377
02:32:47,780 --> 02:32:44,311
the States because I don't have my popup

3378
02:32:50,291 --> 02:32:47,790
papers well normal people can drive back

3379
02:32:53,541 --> 02:32:50,301
and forth on Canada

3380
02:32:57,261 --> 02:32:53,551
landed immigrant when he pulls that off

3381
02:33:00,230 --> 02:32:57,271
in 1975 I was about to receive my

3382
02:33:02,270 --> 02:33:00,240
Canadian citizenship and I refused it I

3383
02:33:04,671 --> 02:33:02,280
said I accept the Canadian citizenship

3384
02:33:06,140 --> 02:33:04,681
whether he's a Canadian justice system

3385
02:33:07,910 --> 02:33:06,150
is working

3386
02:33:11,091 --> 02:33:07,920
Vernor you don't need to drive anywhere

3387
02:33:13,730 --> 02:33:11,101
I've offered you the possibility of

3388
02:33:15,680 --> 02:33:13,740
having someone up there travel to your

3389
02:33:19,160 --> 02:33:15,690
ranch pick up the samples and then

3390
02:33:24,200 --> 02:33:19,170
properly get them down to a forensic

3391
02:33:27,350 --> 02:33:24,210
pathology lab then so far no since I got

3392
02:33:30,831 --> 02:33:27,360
so much publisher nur Chris just made

3393
02:33:33,320 --> 02:33:30,841
the offer he knows people up there they

3394
02:33:35,711 --> 02:33:33,330
come to you at their expense

3395
02:33:38,600 --> 02:33:35,721
they'd retrieve the sample they would

3396
02:33:40,761 --> 02:33:38,610
promise to have it analyzed at a

3397
02:33:42,650 --> 02:33:40,771
laboratory probably in the United States

3398
02:33:44,570 --> 02:33:42,660
and give you the results what's the

3399
02:33:47,240 --> 02:33:44,580
problem with that forget about whether

3400
02:33:49,581 --> 02:33:47,250
you're a citizen of Canada or not forget

3401
02:33:52,581 --> 02:33:49,591
about anything else forget about whether

3402
02:33:56,480 --> 02:33:52,591
your neighbors will see you I don't have

3403
02:33:59,480 --> 02:33:56,490
any more samples right now what happened

3404
02:34:02,360 --> 02:33:59,490
to them me lately what happened to them

3405
02:34:05,690 --> 02:34:02,370
because I made such a stink on the

3406
02:34:07,791 --> 02:34:05,700
Internet they have to be they back off

3407
02:34:11,331 --> 02:34:07,801
every time I put the pressure on them

3408
02:34:13,400 --> 02:34:11,341
then they back off okay well Vernor

3409
02:34:15,740 --> 02:34:13,410
let's let's leave it at this before we

3410
02:34:19,490 --> 02:34:15,750
run out of time here get yourself some

3411
02:34:22,280 --> 02:34:19,500
formalin not formaldehyde formalin get a

3412
02:34:25,520 --> 02:34:22,290
container of it and be ready for if

3413
02:34:29,060 --> 02:34:25,530
another case occurs to carefully gather

3414
02:34:31,490 --> 02:34:29,070
a sample cut it in half and put 1/2 in

3415
02:34:33,140 --> 02:34:31,500
in the formalin in one container the

3416
02:34:36,261 --> 02:34:33,150
other half in formalin in the other

3417
02:34:37,910 --> 02:34:36,271
container you those those samples will

3418
02:34:40,581 --> 02:34:37,920
be good virtually forever

3419
02:34:43,461 --> 02:34:40,591
then we could go ahead and set up a way

3420
02:34:45,680 --> 02:34:43,471
to retrieve those samples secretly have

3421
02:34:48,081 --> 02:34:45,690
them tested without your being involved

3422
02:34:51,801 --> 02:34:48,091
and come up with some results without

3423
02:34:54,440 --> 02:34:51,811
that you're spinning your wheels look

3424
02:34:58,881 --> 02:34:54,450
I'm in the process of selling the cattle

3425
02:35:02,060 --> 02:34:58,891
I want to get out because they have been

3426
02:35:04,581 --> 02:35:02,070
gassing me now so bad and I guys will

3427
02:35:06,501 --> 02:35:04,591
have all the angina pain and everything

3428
02:35:08,570 --> 02:35:06,511
ok wait a minute here they are now

3429
02:35:10,910 --> 02:35:08,580
gassing you it's not just the cattle

3430
02:35:13,100 --> 02:35:10,920
anymore it's you yeah let me ask you

3431
02:35:14,331 --> 02:35:13,110
Vernor please let me ask you because

3432
02:35:15,921 --> 02:35:14,341
we're running out of time we have about

3433
02:35:18,171 --> 02:35:15,931
three minutes left and I need to ask you

3434
02:35:20,000 --> 02:35:18,181
some quick focus questions here so first

3435
02:35:22,250 --> 02:35:20,010
of all Verna let me try to understand

3436
02:35:25,190 --> 02:35:22,260
and more fully something about your

3437
02:35:28,040 --> 02:35:25,200
current living situation okay so please

3438
02:35:31,519 --> 02:35:28,050
tell me do you have a family there with

3439
02:35:34,429 --> 02:35:31,529
you I've been living alone here that

3440
02:35:38,540 --> 02:35:34,439
I've been living alone most of the time

3441
02:35:41,269 --> 02:35:38,550
here you know I don't have a family here

3442
02:35:44,870 --> 02:35:41,279
did you have a family in Germany or what

3443
02:35:46,820 --> 02:35:44,880
easy bacon okay you have no family here

3444
02:35:49,790 --> 02:35:46,830
do you have a family elsewhere in

3445
02:35:51,889 --> 02:35:49,800
Germany somewhere one brother living

3446
02:35:54,860 --> 02:35:51,899
over there in Germany and nieces and

3447
02:35:57,110 --> 02:35:54,870
nephews okay and you don't have friends

3448
02:36:00,230 --> 02:35:57,120
here that you trust it's just you alone

3449
02:36:03,730 --> 02:36:00,240
you have employees no I don't have

3450
02:36:05,230 --> 02:36:03,740
employees unhand that one-man show oh

3451
02:36:08,210 --> 02:36:05,240
boy

3452
02:36:12,160 --> 02:36:08,220
and if I got whatever family I would

3453
02:36:14,719 --> 02:36:12,170
have it had to quit it already long ago

3454
02:36:19,639 --> 02:36:14,729
that means that again don't ever have

3455
02:36:21,800 --> 02:36:19,649
ever any when I got the family they got

3456
02:36:24,559 --> 02:36:21,810
some of it they can put crush on and

3457
02:36:28,790 --> 02:36:24,569
I've seen a lot of people when they have

3458
02:36:32,059 --> 02:36:28,800
a family or a loved one you know then

3459
02:36:35,269 --> 02:36:32,069
they cannot fight that fight that they

3460
02:36:37,429 --> 02:36:35,279
are vulnerable well it sounds like you

3461
02:36:39,590 --> 02:36:37,439
have a very lonely existence there I

3462
02:36:41,710 --> 02:36:39,600
hope at least you have satellite TV or

3463
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something so you can be entertained

3464
02:36:47,120 --> 02:36:44,729
listen I don't need sunlight TV and

3465
02:36:50,120 --> 02:36:47,130
watch the television now for four years

3466
02:36:54,019 --> 02:36:50,130
and radio I think the last time I

3467
02:36:58,070 --> 02:36:54,029
listened to for half an hour radio about

3468
02:36:59,719 --> 02:36:58,080
a week ago so every day you basically

3469
02:37:02,300 --> 02:36:59,729
have an existence you're not watching TV

3470
02:37:03,349 --> 02:37:02,310
you're not listening to the radio do you

3471
02:37:06,469 --> 02:37:03,359
read a newspaper

3472
02:37:08,780 --> 02:37:06,479
oh every too often is if there's

3473
02:37:12,380 --> 02:37:08,790
something it's of interest to me but

3474
02:37:14,870 --> 02:37:12,390
most of my information now I go deeper

3475
02:37:17,120 --> 02:37:14,880
into it so the internet and as if so

3476
02:37:18,860 --> 02:37:17,130
thought to meet from the chest because

3477
02:37:20,840 --> 02:37:18,870
there's a lot of trash on the Internet

3478
02:37:23,240 --> 02:37:20,850
but I've been I've been around long

3479
02:37:26,750 --> 02:37:23,250
enough and I can sort out most of the

3480
02:37:30,139 --> 02:37:26,760
most of the chests and I have lots of

3481
02:37:32,480 --> 02:37:30,149
friends right across the continent and

3482
02:37:33,650 --> 02:37:32,490
in other continents you know you sound

3483
02:37:36,170 --> 02:37:33,660
like they were very lonely

3484
02:37:38,810 --> 02:37:36,180
distance and I feel bad for you what

3485
02:37:42,680 --> 02:37:38,820
Vernor is there any place our listeners

3486
02:37:46,100 --> 02:37:42,690
can check you out online google my name

3487
02:37:50,330 --> 02:37:46,110
gonna box but as I say I want to say I'm

3488
02:37:53,180 --> 02:37:50,340
not I'm not saying that anything that

3489
02:37:55,400 --> 02:37:53,190
has been done by UFOs and aliens I'm and

3490
02:37:57,890 --> 02:37:55,410
down-to-earth person at first I look for

3491
02:37:59,301 --> 02:37:57,900
causes on this earth in the evidence I

3492
02:38:01,400 --> 02:37:59,311
can gather on this earth and the

3493
02:38:03,801 --> 02:38:01,410
evidence I've gathered so far it does

3494
02:38:05,870 --> 02:38:03,811
not point to UFOs and aliens doing this

3495
02:38:08,301 --> 02:38:05,880
Vernor thank you very much you can find

3496
02:38:10,790 --> 02:38:08,311
more information from chris at our

3497
02:38:13,820 --> 02:38:10,800
strange planet calm our strange planet

3498
02:38:16,700 --> 02:38:13,830
calm we hope to get that webcam up real

3499
02:38:18,560 --> 02:38:16,710
soon now you can find us at the power

3500
02:38:22,250 --> 02:38:18,570
cast calm once again that's the power

3501
02:38:25,250 --> 02:38:22,260
cast calm and on Twitter we are known as

3502
02:38:27,020 --> 02:38:25,260
the power cast we even have a couple of

3503
02:38:30,440 --> 02:38:27,030
pages over at Facebook how about that

3504
02:38:31,940 --> 02:38:30,450
from gene and Chris Verner rock thanks

3505
02:38:40,430 --> 02:38:31,950
for joining us this week on the power

3506
02:38:41,150 --> 02:38:40,440
cast you know no problem we're just

3507
02:38:46,700 --> 02:38:41,160
trying to help

3508
02:38:53,030 --> 02:38:46,710
thank you very much before I look for

3509
02:38:59,030 --> 02:38:55,540
[Music]

3510
02:39:01,939 --> 02:38:59,040
the para cast featuring gene Steinberg

3511
02:39:04,929 --> 02:39:01,949
and Christopher O'Brien is a copyrighted

3512
02:39:08,660 --> 02:39:04,939
presentation of making the impossible